Are Some Christian Organizations Hate Groups?

Do you have exception with a particular group?

 

You are claiming that SPLC is honest because SPLC says they are honest. That's a great big FAIL.

 

Actually, I am saying that there is a process of submittal for Hate Groups, and then there is a review process. The purpose of this thread is to analyze any of the groups in question, to determine if there is bias or the groups are legit (hate groups). So far, I haven't seen any specifically cited group, that I would say doesn't belong. I'll take a closer look at the groups you mentioned, and try to find some info, submitted by others, besides SPLC. Fair enough? Feel free to do the same. Thanks.

 

most are good groups, but yes, some are hate groups

 

Could you cite the groups that you believe are "good groups".

 

there are many in my town alone, way too many to list for a non-Christian, heck I doubt even a Christian could list them all

you will know them by their actions

an example of a bad group would be the kkk type groups

 

I already gave you several groups in previous post.

Lew Rockwell was listed as a "hate group", he is the co-founder of the Mises Institute (a libertarian economics think tank), and a solid libertarian. Of course being anti-war and for small govt means he is the opposite of the "progressives" - and so he is listed as a "hater" by the SPLC.

 

Concerning White Lives Matter. I did a little research. Although I find their points a little ridiculous, it's not for me to say. This link talks about a WLM protest in Austin, TX. It was at a site, where the Gov. Greg Abbott had earlier dedicated a monument recognizing the contribution of African-Americans to the state. They interviewed one of the leaders of WLM, Ken Reed. According to the attached link, "The group said it was a coincidence that its protest was held at about the same time as the ceremony for the monument." Now I believe this is a blatant lie. The group, in my mind, at the very least, is a group of Black Haters, who is lying about their actual intentions.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/8-people-arrested-at-white-lives-matter-rally-in-austin/

 

I am speaking only about groups, who are reported on the SPLC Hate List.

 

I am attaching 2 items, regarding Lew Rockwell. My view is consistent with yours. I don't think he deserves Hate Group status. He appears to be more Anti-State and Anti-Government. Also Anti-War, of which I can relate. And he will target Conservatives and Liberals both. He said the following about GW Bush:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/
Ironic how many of those insisting that we “preserve history” do their best to erase from the record their fervid support of Bush’s disastrous invasion and occupation and destruction of Iraq and the elimination of the majority of the Christians there and in the rest of the Middle East.

Here's an individual review of Lew Rockwell:

http://tomgpalmer.com/2005/01/21/racism-and-bigotry-delivered-courtesy-of-lew-rockwell/
Hats off to Lew Rockwell and his friends, for doing their best to debase libertarian ideas by associating them so closely with some of the the worst and scariest people ever to scuttle under a rock. (There’s more under the archives labeled “The Fever Swamp.”)

Now I’m going to go and wash my hands. The experience of sorting through all the dirt that Lew Rockwell churns out has that effect on me.

Now that's an individual's opinion, and I'm still apt to agree with you on this one. SPLC states that Lew Rockwell warns of an upcoming American Civil War, but I don't think his statesments or his tone is that extreme.

 

Ugh, no. Rockwell didn't get on their list for being libertarian, anti-war or small government. He got on their list for being a saber-rattling conspiracy theorist blathering on about a new Civil War.

 

Yes many Christian and other religious groups are hate groups masking themselves as legitimate organizations when really internally and externally they fan hatred.

 

Christians hate SIN. Thus, there is a reason -- a very valid one according to a Christian's core beliefs -- to bear hatred toward something that embodies or practices sin! But, I don't trust the "SPLC" far as I can spit into a 100-mile per hour head-wind, so, their 'list' doesn't mean 'jack-sh*t' to me....

 

Perhaps you could explain which Christian hate group represents the "jack-sh*t" that you don't agree belongs. Maybe we could all become as enlightened as you.

 

Perhaps you misunderstood. What I meant to convey was that any 'list' of 'hate groups' issued by the Southern Poverty Law Center would be, in my opinion, little more than hyperliberal bullshit, propaganda, and agenda-driven hatred all by itself, which, in the final analysis doesn't mean "jack-sh*t" to me....

Parenthetically, mentioned at the following link are no fewer than 21 Christian groups that this SPLC thing considers to be 'hate groups', according to the very liberal CNN website..... Link: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/17/us/hate-groups-us-map-trnd/index.html . The SPLC obviously like the broad-brush, 'shotgun' approach. Fine.... We on the Right are very used to it by now....

 

You have a good point there.

 

There is no Shotgun Approach at all. If that were the case, they would have every church in the US on their list. This is the SPLC statement regarding criteria for a "Christian Identity" organization to be considered a Hate Organization.

Christian Identity describes a religion that is fundamentally racist and anti-Semitic. It asserts that whites, not Jews, are the true Israelites favored by God in the Bible. In most of its forms, Identity theology depicts Jews as biologically descended from Satan, while non-whites are seen as soulless “mud people” created with the other Biblical “beasts of the field.” Some groups listed in other categories, such as the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations and several Klan groups, also hold Christian Identity beliefs.

 

That is the SPLC's opinion, and they have a right to it. I really couldn't care less what the SPLC thinks -- about anything....

 

Don't know what the point of your thread is....but just because someone lives in a garage, that doesn't make them an automobile. Darkness does not mix with light. You can't follow Jesus and hate. You can and should discern, but that does not entail "hate".

 

I've read your posts. You just seem to think the mere discernment of "evil" is hate. Perhaps you don't even acknowledge anything as evil. Perhaps you even embrace some of it. Christians are called to humbly submit one to another. Maybe you find that offensive....I don't know your mind, but you do seem to detest those that would follow Christ.

 

I'm sorry if I confused you. I am a Christian. I believe Jesus Christ is the only path to salvation. However, I also believe that a lot of people, both historically and today, use Christ's name for sinister purposes. Please look at the SPLC statement on the first entry on this thread. That is the entire crux of this thread.

 

My post you quoted was addressed to Tecoyah. I did write another post that you probably meant to address. I understand what you are saying. It just concerns me that there are "wolves" lying in wait, whose only intent is to throw the Body of Christ under the bus. My only intention is that we properly identify the Body of Christ and it has nothing in common with any of those groups mentioned.

 

You take SPLC at its word, you think that SPLC is honest because SPLC says it is honest. You have shown your inability to judge these groups independently. Therefore your assessment of any group is suspect and its credibility extremely poor.

 

General Hate seems to be a very unpopular man, I wonder what he did.

 

Wrong. SPLC put Lew Rockwell on their so-called "hate list" because they decided Rockwell was "anti-government".

Rockwell is a libertarian so he is obviously for small government. Being a libertarian means the SPLC thinks you belong on its so-called "hate list".

The Tenth Amendment Center is also on the SPLC so-called "hate list". Wonder why? Probably because the TAC doesn't support a dictatorship like the SPLC and the "progressives" want to impose on Americans.