Robert E Lee was opposed to civil war monuments

Lee was opposed to monuments to memorialize the civil war because he felt the country needed to heal. Yet, people decades after his death and years after reconstruction constructed these monuments. Many of these monuments were constructed as a backlash to gains in rights of African Americans. Why should we celebrate these statues of a man that did not want them? Should we memorialize a man that was opposed to being memorialized, especially when they are being used to divide the country?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pb...es/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments

 

kinda hard to see how The South can ever move on and fully rejoin the USA, with those statues and flags.

 

He was an enemy of, fought against, and killed American soldiers. What a goon.

 

While you say these monuments were constructed as a backlash to the receipt of rights, you do not demonstrate this, nor do you mention that most of these monuments were erected by democrats. You do not understand the civil war, the times, the stakes or the ramifications. I doubt you know the years these monuments were erected, or for what purpose. In short, the reason it is important to preserve these statues is so that a person like you, can look at them befuddled, and ask, within earshot of a person like me, "why is this here?" rather than assume you understand.

Robert E. Lee
December 27, 1856

He was opposed to more than monuments.

The man who commissioned the statue, and provided the universities business school, and developed the cities cultural center with endowment for the arts, so as to enrich the people with music and the arts.

You seek to tear down a history you do not know, of people you do not understand, for a purpose not your own.

And the racists are helping you do it. That is why I was there to oppose them. You let them represent a history you don't understand, because in truth you don't care... or you would have learned it. It is a convenient way to feel self righteous in a modern left/right paradigm, where your views of me are no different than your views of them. It is far more convenient to paint us as evil than to understand who we are... but yeah. General Lee, the man Lincoln asked to lead the Union army because of his profound respect for his principals, felt the nation needed to heal. Now, we need to understand.

 

See what I mean?

 

We are in the middle of a culture war. Time to choose sides. Are you PRO-FACIST or ANTI-FACIST?

 

I have posted in other threads links to show the numbers of monuments created during the Jim crow and civil rights era. I have lived in the south. I understand their culture. Yet, you just broadly assume and generalize about me. I find anyone that would march along side kkk, white supremacists, or other hate groups as a person with highly questionable morals. Those groups have done so much violence and even murdering. Their goal is to perpetuate hatredband intolerance. Those groups should be lambasted and ridiculed as barbaric. The fact that you would associate with them just lessens your cause.

Within this website is a link on the pdf from the southern poverty law center:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/71850...ents-peaked-during-jim-crow-civil-rights-eras
Look at how many monuments are post reconstruction (1877).

 

Then by removing them, you are doing exactly what he would want you to do!

 

Yes, we should respect people's wishes who do not want to be memorialized.

 

If that (so called) 'logic' applies, what about the Confederate statues that don't portray Lee?

Lee wasn't the one in power then to make that decision for all and nor is he now.

 

Andrew Jackson would never want to be on a Federal Reserve note, yet he is on the most used bill, one of the cruelest tricks off history.

I've got a novel idea, why the hell don't we let local communities decide what statues they want to put up and everyone else can butt the hell out of it?

 

I have talked about the other statues in other threads. This one is about Lee.

 

Well, he is getting demoted to the back of the 20. Maybe they will take him off it all together.

 

I quoted a post you made about Lee.

You were referring to LEE in your reply I was replying to.

Go back and follow the course of discussion YOU were in and get back to me, M'kay?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/lee-himself-opposed-confederate-monuments.512376/

 

Again, my argument is about Lee monuments. You asked about other monuments. I told you to look in other threads that I posted about them.

 

I asked different questions and the other thread was not active.

 

You misunderstand. I was a counterprotester, because the racists do not serve my cause. I came to debate... nobody else did.

Having lived in the south does not make you educated in history. Did you actually read the letter I posted?

 

I dont think you understand what that means.

Attempting to stifle free speech of differing ideologies through force is fascism. That is what the left is doing... so, to answer your question, I am against fascism, which is what the left are engaging in.

 

Yes, I did, but you did not ask about your letter. What would you like to know?

 

It is what the antifa are doing. All lefties are not antifa.

 

So if I stand with white supremicists, I am a white supremicist, but if you stand with antifa and blm, you are just... a person in a group?

I went to stand against the white supremicists, but could not stand with the rabidly violent leftists, so I went home. It was pretty clear cut for me.

 

More of the Democratic Party's #1 tactic - lying in fact or by omission.

The blog does the latter by editing. He did not say do not erect the memorial. He said it was too soon immediately after the war and instead to "wait for better times." His letter says to preserve the graves but to "wait for better times" before adding the memorial.

http://leefamilyarchive.org/papers/letters/transcripts-UVA/v076.html

"Wait," not "never."

It is essentially a fact 99+% of the time that for any Democrat or liberal blog or press outlet, what is written is either an outright lie, distorted by cherry picking facts to portray other than reality, or selective editing to completely change the meaning. In this instance, the latter.

 

If you bothered to read it. You answered. I have no reason to disbelieve it.

 

No, that is not what he wrote. He wrote to "wait for better times."

http://leefamilyarchive.org/papers/letters/transcripts-UVA/v076.html