Why I support globalism

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    And move away from the old days of coal and manufacturing while we're at it.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Then what can I expect to come from the U.K.?
     
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    If we as a species weren't so self-centered, & prideful, PERHAPS Globalism MIGHT work.


    Best I ever see happening, long after I return to stardust, is the Globe uniting to defend against / support after, a global Catastrophy, or Alien invasion threat / first contact.
     
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    Manufacturing is an important component of a growing, healthy economy

    As for coal let the free market absent environmentalist do-gooders decide
     
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  5. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    If the free market was smart, it would take the resources it has in coal and turn that into resources going toward green energy.

    Not all manufacturing is bad, but the manufacturing Trump is talking about--the paper mills, the assembly lines, those days are long gone. This isn't the 1980s. We can argue until the cows come home, but whatever direction it goes on, it will always point back to America needing to remain a globalist country.
     
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    Globalism allows the international capitalist to profit pitting labor against labor.
    And labor in the most developed nations lose.
    International trade. Of course. But not Free Trade. Fair Trade.
    And put a value on access to American markets as there use to be.
     
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    You consume products every day that are manufactured on assembly lines - but made in foreign countries

    So the assembly line is far from obsolete

    We need to make those products in America instead of China
     
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    Even then I know based on how human nature is that it wouldn't last. And once some power hungry whack jobs got there hands on a one world government they would turn it into a living nightmare that would never end.

    It sounds nice and cute on paper but in the real world no one would want to live in it anymore.
     
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    Great point, I agree.
     
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    Free trade and globalism are two different stories.
     
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    Gotta admit though, you can see through the wall between.
     
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    And most who don't side with him have been misled by the simplistic mischaracterizations they are fed.

    We need an honest press.
     
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    Exactly! Dems aren't even aware that the media's brainwashing is working on themselves for eventual self-destruction.

    Steve
     
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    Who are these "they" you're so warmly describing?

    Me? Anyone in particular on this forum?

    Got any quotes from these people?
     
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    But you want them to buy your goods and to do that, they must have money and to have money, they must have trade deals that benefit them.
     
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    Funny how the elected democratic government of Iran once supported, quite strongly mind you, what we would today describe as "western values".

    Too bad that didn't sit well with the US, who decided to back a revolution to replace that government with an extremist dictatorship.
     
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    They can set up a free market economy and we can sign mutually beneficial trade deals. We're not going to give them anything, such as a one way trade deal that only benefits them or any kind of income redistribution (from us to them).

    When I hear "globalism", I think of the worst case scenario: one world government. That can never happen because people around the world do not share the same values. But if globalism is limited to economics, it can be a good thing. Linking countries economically makes everyone wealthier and lessens the likelihood of war.
     
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    Ancient history. Some things were necessary in the Cold War that don't look pretty now.

    Iran was better under the Shah than it is now.
     
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    I'm shocked you'd come out openly in support of such a contemptible ideology.
     
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    Again globalism is not a one world government. It is mostly about when they buy your goods in Sri Lanka with whatever currency they use, you are going to have to find something to do with that Sri Lankan currency that has value to you which may be buying their goods, or a factory there or whatever or exchange it for dollars with someone else who wants to invest in Sri Lanka.
     
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    I know globalism must be a good thing because of the bad people that oppose it (occupiers, anarchists, anti-fans, etc.).
     
  22. Balto

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    When I'm talking assembly lines, I'm talking automatics assembly lines. Those Fords are being made auth robots more and more than they are people, and trying to bring back this type of manufacturing job before all this technology existed, is a ware of time and resources, not to mention a losing battle. Fun fact, most of GMs vehicles are made already in America.

    Being made in America doesn't always equate to good value though unfortunately, and gets far too used as a political selling point.

    Btw, I'm still waiting for the answer to my question. What can I expect in return from the U.K. if I gave 90% of what I earned? It's called trade for s reason.
     
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    What? When the world benefits, that's a bad thing.
     
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    Globalism is turning Western Society down to Third World status, as it is in Brazil, Cambodia, and Nigeria.
     
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    Most things have a plus and a minus. From an economic point, globalism makes sense. From an environmental stand, it is horrible.
     

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