Knife-wielding campus pride leader killed by police at Georgia Tech

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  1. US Conservative

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    Says the "gender is a social construct" guy.
     
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    Agreed, but shooting them isn't the answer. Mental health care is the best solution....and a few beanbag 12 gauge shotguns.
     
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    Let me explain it for you.

    A knife is a deadly weapon, that's not up for debate.

    A LEO has to meet a threat with at least or preferably greater force. For example, if you decide to throw punches at a cop, he will resort to his baton, pepper spray, or taser. He has no obligation to engage in a fist fight with you because you chose to use fists.

    If you have a deadly weapon in hand (knife in this case) and are refusing repeated commands to drop it while advancing on the LEO who is holding his service pistol to defend himself and the public behind him, he will have no choice but to shoot to "stop the threat" which as per LE training means shooting center mass until the threat stops (if it takes one shot or if you have to empty the whole mag).

    Using deadly force means that not doing so could result in harm or death to you. Mainly, the "shoot him in the leg" myth is just that, a myth that gets mentioned by MMQB's who have never been anywhere near shooting at paper targets, much less in the shoes of this LEO who's heart rate and adrenaline was in the red zone when he had to make the decision to shoot. Trust me, aiming for any limbs is what Hollywood makes you think is possible. It's complete BS. Try aiming for paper target bad guys who aren't moving, not presenting a threat to you, and try aiming for their legs the next time you go shooting. Then try to do a quick sprint, or a few push-ups to get your heart rate up and try shooting at the harmless paper target again.
     
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    I watched the video of the shooting on several networks and it appears that the "guy" wanted to commit suicide by cop. The " guy" left a suicide note or two. What I did not like is I do believe that the campus rent a cops wannabe police maybe shot too soon. But Inwas not there so maybe the wannabe who shot "him" thought the the multi kit Tool that the "guy" was holding was a stainless steel or crone plated gun.

    Sadly the poor "guy" was confused and mentally ill. He stated that he not male or female but invented some stupid assed term called " non binary gender". WTF? This crap about a millions " genders gas gotten out of hand and if feeding into the brains of the mentally shaky people who I feel will increase in number and will get more and more confused and will commit suicide.

    Not to sound mean or uncaring but IS THIS nature's way of removing those who are unfit to exist in society by having them commit suicide. I know sound harsh and mean but think about it they are not abject to cope with the real world so maybe removal from life is a better option for them

    Just say!
     
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    Incoherent
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

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    Jesus, did @katzgar really say that? He's obviously a science denier.
     
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    Thats all very easy to type, but you still have to go to a range and try it. Even when you are not dealing with a target with no concern for its own life, its not an easy shot. It is the shooters responsibility to know where the bullet will terminate and endangering innocent lives by taking risky shots should never be attempted. My sympathy goes to the officer that had to take a life.

    Does anyone else think its ironic that the gender-confused person was carrying a multi-tool?
     
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    Be honest you love the shooting don't you
     
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    So you relish blindly siding with LE when they use disproportionate force to kill a citizen in cold blood?

    Got it.
     
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    Are you saying "Gender is a social construct"? Do you think boys and girls have to be programmed to mate when they come of age?
     
  11. US Conservative

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    Facts puzzle you.
     
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    Its not "blindly siding with LE" when there is video, and other evidence of what this was-suicide by cop.
     
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    busy stalking today I see
     
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    your assertion that one of LE function is to assist with suicide by cop is incorrect.
     
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    I watched the video and think that any reasonable person would conclude that he/she was not going to stop approaching the officer with an object. How many times were orders ignored? I agree that after watching the video from the safety of my office, the police could have handled it better.
     
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    Actually, the skepticism you coarsely summarize with "nuh-uh" takes a more rational look at the "history" of multi-gender cultures. Most of them are wacky beliefs rooted in superstition and paganism, or unsophisticated understanding of biological defects. Regardless, it's strange that anyone one make an argument for normalizing transgenderism by pointing to backwards cultures throughout history. There is a good reason why such weird ideas did not rise to dominance or even flourish.
     
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    And again, most times in a situation like this, the police do not shoot.
    Even from the safety of your office, you should be able to comprehend that.
     
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    The man wanted to die but didn't have the guts to lie down in the bathtub and cut his wrists. He got what he wanted.....case closed.
     
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    So it works on larger deadlier animals, but it won't work on people?

    Do you know how insane that sounds?

    This is not a movie, the person having a breakdown, is not going to get up after the shooting and wipe off the red paint.
    They are dead, FOREVER.

    Try harder, stop being lazy and murderous. Do some actual protecting and serving, instead of taxing and shooting.
     
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    You don't have to work SWAT to understand how firearms work and that in this case there were likely nonlethal options that were bypassed, despite appearing to have plenty of time to engage such, in favor of lethal. Why? Had the person had a hostage or someone other than police within stabbing range, sure, but that doesn't seem the case here. This took place in my neck of the woods and police are notoriously bad in these parts.
     
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    mistake-dupe
     
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    A knife is a deadly weapons as is a ball bat or other club.
    If someone presents one to you as a reasonable threat, where you have a reasonable fear for your life, you have a right to shoot them.
    And in fact, a person need not have any weapon to qualify as a reasonable threat, depending on the circumstances.
     
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    Mainly because hindsight is 20/20, the easiest job in the world is that of critic, they're not mind readers, and Minority Report is still fictional.
     
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    We are not going to agree so no point debating that part. These officers were employed to work on student campus. What sort of trouble do they normally have to deal with - drunk students? noisy behaviour? fights? speeding cars? Are they going to shoot these people too? So back to my first post - where are the tasers that surely must be available but reported as being not available to the officers - a lie or wtf?

    Why shouldn't a gender-confused person carry a multi-tool? Scouts have them, I had a pen knife when I was about 7 years old and so did all my friends. A lot of people have pen knives and in my pre-teens the hope of having a Swiss army knife
     
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    Where have I said anything like that? I was just quoting a fact. There is no 100% definition of whether someone is male or female.
     

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