Trump's U. N. speech

I have no idea what alternative universe you seem to be living on, but the list of what you think are rhetorical questions does suggest that you live in the parochial right wing noise swamp that has little to do with reality and everything to do with promoting fear and xenophibia.

"In no alternate universe does the action of NOKO and Iran benefit the EU, Russia, and China. They know that."

The actions of North Korea have nothing to do with the Iran nuclear deal. So the assertion has no basis.

"Is Iran the world's top sponsor of terrorism ??"

Not that I am aware. Not one single attack against the EU or the United States by terrorist organizations originated in Iran.

"Are inspectors allowed to visit any site in Iran on a moments notice ??"

Yes.

"Is Iran developing missile capability to deliver a nuclear weapon ??"

They are developing missile technology.

"Are Iran and NOKO working together on nuclear arms and missile technology ??"

There is no evidence of that at all.

"Was the US policy on NOKO and Iran in the last 3 decades based on sound judgment ??"

No, the Bush Adminstration's decision to label both of them part of an imaginary "axis of evil" (see your false claim above) motivated both of them to resume suspended nuclear programs. North Korea was farther along, and the US blustered and sent John Bolton to make an international fool of himself while they finished their bomb.

If Trump decides that policy is the wise one, expect the same result in Iran.

"Was Obama's decision to pull out of Iraq giving away the US victory (and yielding control of Iraq to Iran) based on his desire to negotiate a "nuclear" deal with Iran ??"

No, the two are unrelated.

The US had not secured Iraq at all. Iran was a player in Baghdad from the day that Sadaam Hussien fell. If you're trying to tell us that Tehran played no role in Iraqi politics until after Obama began withdrawing, you either have no idea what you're talking about, or you're just making things up. Ahmed Chalabi, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld's favorite Iraqi was in constant contact with Tehran and would be from 2003 right up to his death in 2011.

 

Well said.

Small minds and people who don't understand leadership don't understand the value of well chosen silence.

When Trump blusters and bellows, all he does is lower himself to the level of the fourth rate power and create the expectation that he may do something else stupid in order to try and save face.

Trump is a fool. Our allies all know it. So do our rivals. (especially the Russians. That's why they wanted him)

 

It's war conducted against terrorism - Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism. Therefore the war on terror is a war with Iran.

Trump is the world leader who is finally telling NOKO in no uncertain terms that they will not continue to get away with developing nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them. He is doing so by words and actions.

And more Trump Derangement Syndrome. Preoccupation with style as more of a threat to the free world than a lunatic with nuclear weapons. The lib progs continue to miss the point of foreign policy and domestic policy. Hilarious.

 

It's clear from your answers just who resides in an alternative universe. Come'on man - think things through before making a fool of yourself.

 

You *******n right we do. SO proud of Trump.

 

lmao@the drama

 

Trump's pals won't be able to see the logic of this post.

It is very difficult to understand what drives Trump and his base. It is almost as if they want a war with Iran or NK or both.

 

Of course, we are concerned about our President's style. His "style" is playing into Kim's hand. He is doing exactly what Kim wants him to do, getting into a shouting match exchanging insults. That's a victory for N.K because is making the American President look foolish.

No one is ignoring the activities of Iran and N.K. That's ridiculous.

Your questions concerning Iran have absolutely nothing to do with the Iranian nuclear deal signed by the P5+1 and Iran. You didn't know that? Amazing.

Yes.

Hindsight is 20/20. However, there weren't a lot of choices just as there aren't many now. But if the choice was between the status quo and war, the answer is yes. Do you have a better idea as to what should have been done? If so, be very specific answering that question. General characterizations and political B.S. is meaningless.

 

It appears that Trump's announcement concerning the Chinese central bank is bogus. Trump lied to us again.

 

RE:

Nonsense. Only about 7 countries in the world consider Hezbollah a "terrorist organization" because it is defensive in nature and spends 1/2 of its budget on Social Services in Israeli decimated S. Lebanon.

Meanwhile, the only people who want a war on Iran in the US are Zionist pundits, politicians & "Israel First" bureaucrats.

"Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED

 

Warning NOKO against nuclear ambitions is playing into their hands ?? That's some twisted thought process there.

No consideration that Obama pulled out of Iraq leaving the door wide open for ISIS and Iran ?? I thought the lib progs believed that Obama is highly intelligent. Why would he do such a thing against the recommendation of all his military, intelligence, and diplomatic advisors ?? Curious.

 

Are you kidding me ?? Hezbollah, the Revolutionary Guard, and Hamas are not terrorist organizations ??

Quit reading HuffPo and get into the real world.

 

That's because there is no logic. Just bleating wailing prog feelings.

Oh no. We are done mollycoddling putrid foreign entities which owned your pathetic asses for 8 years.

 

If it was true, your imagination wouldn't demand that you'd characterize it as "it appears". It would simply be true.

For future reference, when you feel compelled to write "it appears", simply substitute that phrase for "I'm about to write some total bullsht".

At least you'd be accurately representing what it is in your head.

 

Try addressing the points.

I got the events right, and the outcomes.

If Trump is stupid enough to try and bully Iran the way Bushed tried, and failed to bully North Korea, he can expect the exact same result.

Any fool can see that........ well, almost any fool.

 

I'm sorry, but am I hearing you call for starting a war?

 

I did - your points are propaganda and have no relation to the truth. But that's how the left rolls - if the history is inconvenient then make up new history. Good luck in fantasy world.

 

All I heard is a sensible approach for shutting down a lunatic with nuclear weapons.

 

You did not. Instead you wrote a blanket denial of the obvious.

 

What sensible approach was that? Trump has no plan at all.

 

Trump plays a cheap tinhorn on the world stage and you cheer.

It's always the chest thumping with you far right wing types.

I recall the way you cheered Bush in his codpiece.

Meanwhile the war-in-the-wrong-country he started went sideways while your ilk looked the other way and cheered.

Bush bullied North Korea, and they built a bomb.

Now, Trump is proposing to do the same thing to Iran, and will get the same results.

The reactionary right will cheer for that too, until the day that Iran explodes its first bomb.

They the far right will start with the denials, the excuses, and the tortured parsed rationalizations for why it wasn't their hero's fault.

Reality and responsibility are not big with reactionaries.

 

I think Trump is more likely to glass the whole area in. Which I am for, just to be clear.

 

Do some homework. The facts do not support any of your contentions.

 

At least read the newspapers ??

 

"According to CNN, "Hezbollah did everything that a government should do, from collecting the garbage to running hospitals and repairing schools."" (1)

Hezbollah was created as a defensive deterrent to Israel's repeated attempts to grab Lebanon's Litani River valley that has been coveted by Zionist Colonists since 1919.
It is currently fighting the REAL terrorist groups, ISIL & Syrian rebel groups who are supported by Israel & the US.

Where have you been?
Read & learn:

(1)"Hezbollah"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

EXCERPT "Hezbollah's status as a legitimate political party, a terrorist group, a resistance movement, or some combination thereof is a contentious issue.[39] The Arab League,[40] United States,[41] France,[42] the Gulf Cooperation Council,[43][44] Canada,[45] Japan,[46] the Netherlands,[47] and Israel[48] have classified Hezbollah as a terrorist organization. The European Union, New Zealand, the United Kingdom,[49] and Australia[50] have proscribed Hezbollah's military wing as a terrorist organization, while making a distinction with Hezbollah's political wing.[51][52] Russia considers Hezbollah a legitimate sociopolitical organization.[53] The People's Republic of China remains neutral, and maintains contacts with Hezbollah.[54]

"Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development program. Hezbollah currently operates at least four hospitals, twelve clinics, twelve schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance program. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country's private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members."[126]

According to CNN, "Hezbollah did everything that a government should do, from collecting the garbage to running hospitals and repairing schools."[143] In July 2006, during the war with Israel, when there was no running water in Beirut, Hezbollah was arranging supplies around the city. Lebanese Shiites "see Hezbollah as a political movement and a social service provider as much as it is a militia."[143] Hezbollah also rewards its guerilla members who have been wounded in battle by taking them to Hezbollah-run amusement parks.[144]

Hezbollah is, therefore, deeply embedded in the Lebanese society."CONTINUED