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Senator Blumenthal: ban bump stocks, semiautomatics, and high capacity magazines

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Galileo, Oct 3, 2017.

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  1. Xenamnes

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    The AR-15, and rifles similar to it, are defensive firearms.
     
    Xenamnes, Oct 13, 2017
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    Sweet. Blinders and all.
     
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    Heller rules, and SCOTUS will continue to rule on guns, particularly on what are weapons of war.
     
    JakeStarkey, Oct 13, 2017
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    1. Worked so well in the war on drugs
     
    Small Town Guy, Oct 13, 2017
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  5. JakeStarkey

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    Small Town Guy has given us a fallacy of false equivalency.

    Be specific. Show us exactly how it won't work for guns.
     
    JakeStarkey, Oct 13, 2017
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    America looks more like Mexico and Brazil every day. Both nations have had gun control laws even more strict than Blumenthal proposes.

    How will failed gun control laws work with morally debased people here, anymore than they work with the same people there?
     
    Greataxe, Oct 13, 2017
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    What makes one semi auto more efficient than another at killing humans in numbers?
     
    OrlandoChuck, Oct 13, 2017
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    In all seriousness, and I'm not dodging, you can't figure that out? Isn't it obvious?
     
    tom444, Oct 13, 2017
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    I want your interpretation of what makes one semi auto more effective than others at killing humans in numbers... as you put it.
     
    OrlandoChuck, Oct 13, 2017
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    No I want to know why you can't figure out the obvious? Why militaries pick one over another? Why the Vegas shooter picked what he did? Why the Orlando shooter picked the one he did?
     
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    You are dodging. You cant discern between semi auto firearms as to why one should be banned and yet another not. What components make one deadlier than another?
     
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    I'm not dodging anything. I'll point it out, but you do some work. Why do militaries pick one over another? Why did the Vegas shooter pick what he did? Come on, you're suppose to be a firearms instructor.
     
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    I am a firearms instructor. You are avoiding a legitimate question by deflecting in what is supposed to be an honest debate.
     
    OrlandoChuck, Oct 13, 2017
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    You mean to tell me you don't why a military would pick one battle rifle over another? One assault rifle over another? That's your honest reply?
     
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    Your missing the point of my question. I want to know what YOU think.
     
    OrlandoChuck, Oct 13, 2017
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    You're missing the point. You tell me why a military would pick one weapon to be used to kill people effectively, and more easily, than another weapon for it's infantry units?
     
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    You asked me this question, "What makes one semi auto more efficient than another at killing humans in numbers?". I'm answering you. Why do you think military units pick one over another? What about one makes it a better choice than another? There in lies the answer to your question.
     
    tom444, Oct 13, 2017
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    I have accepted that you will not answer my question just as I had predicted.
     
    OrlandoChuck, Oct 13, 2017
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    I accept that I answered it, and you can't own up to it, just as I figured.
     
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    They can be used for a multiple of purposes.
     
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    Tom444 you really need to understand that rifles that are used in what lefties call "gun violence" are a tiny fraction of the total deaths. If you really want to stop trolling and do some good. Start here with the democrat controlled city of Chicago.
    http://www.ebony.com/news-views/enough-chicago-murder-by-the-numbers-405#ixzz4vJiRd7Mg
     
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    You need to follow the discussion. I'm only talking about one kind of gun violence. You can troll about the others elsewhere.
     
    tom444, Oct 13, 2017
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    Specifically what kind of "gun violence" are you talking about?
     
    Jestsayin, Oct 13, 2017
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    Um, no. It says, specifically, "the right of the people". The Founders spoke on the issue extensively, and clearly intended it to be a "right of the people". The reason was to enable the people to function as part of a "well regulated" (i.e. properly equipped) citizens militia, but the right was intrinsic to the people. It is a right, which is for the people. Government doesn't have rights; it has powers, and the Founders wanted the people to have the means to be armed at least partially so they would not be helpless in the face of authoritarian government... and they did NOT like the idea of a standing army.

    Your argument has been rendered void by the Supreme Court itself.
     
    6Gunner, Oct 13, 2017
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    Because it never has, and there is not one example where a gun ban was passed where crime and violence was subsequently reduced in any substantive way.

    Laws affect only the law-abiding, not the criminals. Ban something, and all you create is a black market for it and the concurrent crime and violence intrinsic thereto.
     
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