Roy Moore: America was great in era of slavery, is now ‘focus of evil in the world’

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    america has always been the focus of evil in the world
     
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    this is a weird sentence, but I bet those guys who got lynched or drank from that water fountain could tell you who their dad is and the last time they saw him.
     
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    no only since 1945
     
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    always. america has always been a settler state, founded by slavers, made for slavers, ruled by slavers. the white poors have always been tricked into hating our black and latino neighbors and allies. the slaver is the god and totality of america. there is no redeeming this country.
     
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    He is right about one thing, we are the focus of evil, people
    Why do you people even bother with this trolling crap? You party is the party of racist, bigots, homophobes. Everyday they do something to prove that. So spare us this pathetic deflection.

    People were better off in the 60's becasue we taxed the top earners very high, the middle class was paid a livable wage, manufacturing jobs could allow you to have a house, a car, take vacations, and save money. All that is gone today thanks to republicans and their supporter worshiping the 1% who have all the wealth but still need billions in tax cuts. *******n you people are so brainwashed and sad. You guys are really no better than the muslim extremist you rail on about.
     
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    Really, the strength of whose family?
     
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    no, the country was not founded by slavers.

    one dutch slave ship made a stop in america because they didn't sell all their slaves in the carribean. that's how the slave trade started in america. and guess the race of the first slave owner in america?

    that's right, black. and why wouldn't it be? black slaves in america came from black slave owners in africa.

    that's right, slavery is not an american thing. it's a human thing.

    murrey if your intellect matched your ego you'd be fricken bill gates.
     
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    Unbelievable.
     
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    I feel the same way about "progressives" and their Faith. They're even worse than Bible thumpers like Roy Moore...
     
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    I just wanted to add an important element to Libby's analogy by referencing something that would have been as prominent in 1930s German artwork as slavery was in America during the time period that Moore considered America great.
     
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    Yet slavery became racialized. Why is that? What's different about American slavery that it developed a unique racial element found nowhere else?
     
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    You probably loved his 1965 comment.
     
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    Have you ever been outside of the US?
     
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    did you not read? a black owned the first black. that black was obtained from another black. black people enslaving black people, what's racialized about that?

    there were also white slaves too, mostly irish.

    you can make stupid white people feel guilty about slavery, but even that is getting more difficult.
     
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    You're generalizing. Mistake number one.
     
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    Yeah?

    Let's take a look at slavery in 2017.

    The only countries that aren't still slaving are white countries, with a few exceptions.

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    Yet, you're able to freely spout that nonsense on an open Internet without the slightest fear of being shot.

    When I was your age, people in your communist utopias would wind up dead or in a prison camp for pointing out how their countries were the focus of evil in the world.
     
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    i wouldnt call it wierd, just more bs from rwers.
     
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    arabs are notorious for having "servants" that are actually slaves. mostly from east asia.

    they are notorious for raping them. they get into a little bit of trouble if they kill them, but not much.

    one of them went to jail in britain for murdering his servant, but only because he did it in london.
     
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    Roy Moore is a stupid man......
     
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    I am 75 years old, and I say this only as to reference that in all of my life, a democrat until clinton deserted the party of FDR and took many democrats with him, never was the GOP a party which represented working americans nor the middle class. We knew this was the party of banking and big business and the elites back in the 50s, and nothing ever changed. Now this was okay and fine for we had the DP of FDR who stood up for and represented working and middle class americans. This changed by the 1990s helped along by bill clinton. So, the GOP never did represent and stand up for the working class nor middle class. You seem to ignore this or just did not know?

    The GOP is not the party of racism nor homophobia, although they have more than not, in the past, been against homosexuality, based upon the fact that they have lots of evangelical christians in their numbers, and of course a christian is taught by their holy book that homosexuality is an unacceptable sin. Just like murder, theft, bearing false witness, adultery. They do not fear homos no more than they fear the other sins, but just think it is a sin. And they have the right to think in this manner. And they have the right to disagree with homo marriage, given it is a sin, and in their perception, weakens regular marriage, which is why helps to hold a society together, and yield health. Yet our laws are secular and homos were given rights, and christians are supposed to grant unto caesar that which is caesar's and so on and so forth. This is what gives them the "out" when it comes to particular sins and laws, or it should be. But yet they still have the right to believe as they will about the sin of homosexuality.

    They do not hate america, and that is just absurd, although it is credible to question their love of a republic, which they helped to destroy in their fervor to only represent the elite's economic interests which has given us an oligarchy, or corporate state. With a willing democrat party, I must add to be fair and objective. Neither party represents the best economic interests of the non elites today, and IMO, the GOP never did. What is new is that the DP no longer represents the non elites economically either. So in this area, we have one party but with two heads. With the two heads mostly representing social issues, like homosexuality, to name just one.

    So,IMO, your take on the GOP is not really credible, given what our reality is, in 2017. I know the left must try to demonize and color the GOP in the manner which best helps them at the ballot box. And no one can incorporate hyperbolic hypocrisy as well as the modern faux liberal can. Yet if you had the party of FDR still existing, there would be no need for the hyperbolic nor for hypocrisy. The dems became huge hypocrites from necessity, when they left FDR and joined in with the GOP on economic models and issues. For in order to fool their working class and middle class voters demand not only hypocrisy and hyperbole, but dishonesty as well, and they have become experts in these areas. And yet there is the GOP, which has always only stood up for and represented the elites, corporations and big banking, have not changed much at all, except in not really being conservatives, but corporatists. What did change was the DP, which drove me out of it. So who really is the evil here? I would say the DP, given how they changed to slurp up the slop from the feeding troughs that always fed the GOP. And of course, such OPs are just a misdirection away from the party of treason, the DP. But how else are you to keep the working and middle class fooled? For you must use misdirection and attacks on a party that has hardly changed at all, to cover up the party which did change, an in a most treasonous, deceptive manner.

    Of course, the DP, and its voters, should be working hard to bring back the good party, the FDR party. The party of the common people, and most of america are common people, in essence. But since these kind of voters, have no desire to change the DP back, all they can do, instead of offering real hope to the People, is to drum up these attacks. For they don't have to offer any change at all by doing this. They can sell you the same banking and corporate owned DP, by just attacking and name calling. And this is the sad part about this.

    If we could bring back the party of FDR which kept this party in power for so long, americans would flock to it in droves. Including many of the trump people who demanded change and believed trump would deliver. They will be let down, just as obama let down those people demanding change in 07. And this is the story of america, in recent history. Promises no candidate except perhaps sanders ever intended to try to keep. But it got the needed votes.

    I think that trump did intend to keep some of his promises to a suffering people, and yet there was little doubt he would not in large part represent his own self interests as a rich businessman, and if it came down between his own self interests and the common man, he would of course do what he needed to do to help out himself first and others like him. But he is up against deep seated self interests of a group of elites who increase their own wealth from economic slave labor globalism and open borders for cheap labor. And this powerful force, given it spans both parties, would keep him from his promises in this area. As well as in foreign policy. It is in the best interests of the war industries and the elites that own them, and in the best interest of 3 letter agencies like the CIA to ramp up tensions with nations like russia, and even to enter into a new cold war, which is very, very profitable to these same groups. If one rejects this, denies it, then clearly one does not understand why Ike tried hard to warn the people of these institutions and forces. Ike was not a tin foil hat nutter folks. And yet today, he would be called such, but this just shows you how detached we are from reality.
     
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    Where have you lived in the Middle East?
     
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    it's not BS.

    the last decade of black lynchings was the 1920s. black illegitimacy rate at the time was lower than 20%

    today it's 75%
     
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    This indicates that Russia has a slavery problem. Oh, but we should have better relations with them :lol:
     
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