Turkey summons Russia, Iran envoys over Idlib violence

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    They did that after Gulf War 1. Clinton promised some 30 million and never got around to it.
     
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    Turkey was trying to stop ISIS from crossing into Turkey.. Don't you remember?
     
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    They were fighting Kurds
     
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    Gulf war 1? And a lousy 30 million? What does Turkey with that amount of spare change? lol
    It all has nothing to with with GWB and the way he arranged total anarchy in Irak to make ISIS get foot in Iraq and later in Syria.
     
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    Go back to 2011-2012.. They were trying to keep ISIS out of Turkey.
     
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    It's 2018 now.
     
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    There's no question that the invasion of Iraq was a huge foreign policy blunder. I assume you knew it would be before the fact.

    So now what?
     
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    So now what? You said "Turkey has taken in 2 million Syrian refugees."... that's not the fault of Iran and Russia. If Turkey has a problem with it,.. bring it to the US who caused it.
     
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    Looks like Moon of Alabama agrees with you about Erdogan switching back to the USA

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/0...ivers-new-supplies-for-terrorist-attacks.html

    And the same blogger details the current US propaganda campaign about the recent battles in Idleb.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/0...ganda-forecasts-syrian-army-success.html#more

    No one who is in control of their faculties can remotely trust any agreement reached with Erdogan. In the past he was with the USA and NATO. Yesterday he was with Russia and Syria. Today he is against both of them and back with the USA. Tomorrow he'll be back in with Russia and Syria again.

    I wonder what Erdogan's life expectancy will be? His life was apparently forfeit had the US managed coup succeeded.
     
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    Even harder than what?
     
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    He's not "back with the USA." In geopolitics there are no permanent solutions, and solutions become problems. Turkey found itself allying deeply with the United States for fear of the Soviets. This alliance is becoming unreliable at best. Now American actions threatened Turkish sovereignty, and the Turks decided to strike a deal with other power brokers to protect their own interests. With the Americans losing influence the Iranians and Russians saw an opportunity to push the Turks out. It's a losing bet, in the long run. Sunni Arabs and Israelis are more inclined to work with Turks than Iranians. At least for now...

    Don't think in terms of teams and camps, that's not at all how it works.
     
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    And what "kind" am I?
     
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    And on and on this tragedy of humanity continues. With hundreds of thousands already killed and displaced it might be time for a rebel surrender. Its hard to conceive that the people of Syria would have supported such a nightmare as opposed to the stability of an established government. (regardless of its perceived flaws)

    Regardless of the “side” anyone has taken, it’s clear that the human suffering was not worth it.

    How will the world deal with yet another wave of refugees? I don’t know how Turkey responded to the previous millions of displacements. The “human trafficking” business was supposedly booming in Turkey which leads one to think they didn’t absorb many of the unfortunate sufferers. Europe is maxed out. It might be time for places like Israel or China to do their part. There are many pundits who won’t hold their breaths.
     
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    ZOMG, they've been bleached!

    I like my enemies clean.
     
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    Yep, that is the inconvenient truth of the matter. You know, the international law enacted post ww2 with the US deeply involved in the writing of this law, was devised to keep a nation like the US from going into another sovereign nation and taking it down. It really was. So, how can the US get away with breaking international law? How is it that we seem entitled to break it anytime we want to, but woe unto any other nation who is not our ally, who breaks it!!

    That international law was written to stop the aggression of one nation, upon another nation. We had seen plenty of that with Germany and Japan. The law was written to stop one nation invading another nation, which is war. And yet these laws have only pertained to other nations and not the US. So how do we slip around this? What kind of scheme do we use in order to break international law and not be charged with doing so? For I think the law is very clear and specific. And not much left up to interpretation as many american laws are intentionally written.

    There is a strong case for many in the bush jr. admin, to be charged as war criminals. If justice actually existed when it comes to america and her empire.
     
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    Putin can put the hors d'oeuvre's on hold in Sochi, Northern Syria is a ******n mess

    Syrian national defence forces attacking from the south at Idlib, Turkey launching an attack on Afrin in the north, the US announcing it will train 15 000 Syrian Democratic Forces... this is what they fear.

    https://www.yenisafak.com/en/column...s-game-will-be-foiled-in-afrin-manbij-2041282
     
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    What is yenisafak? What's happened in Syria has been an ethnic cleansing of the Sunni majority. Before the civil war Syria had an over population problem.
     
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    They can veto every binding condemnation in the UNSC.
    Everything comes down to that. Simple abuse of power.
    To than complain the UN is not working for them in the UNGA.
     
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    Note location of Idlib.

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