Were the Nazis more advanced than the British and French?

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    I am glad you said that because now that I think about it, such a device would not be what you would use to detect distance from the ground.
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep. My father in law served keeping the b 17s airborne, in England, during ww2 and he voiced what we already knew. The Germans were ahead in technology, hence Operation Paperclip at war's end. They helped to take us to the moon.

    Damn, those Germans had so many very intelligent scientists. Why is this?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler had 4 aircraft factories working on constructing the long range bomber that was called the Amerika bomber for the purpose of long range bombing of the USA. Due to problems in design and the fact the factories were also producing fighter aircraft, the bomber project ended up not completed. Was there much purpose to bomb the USA if he had no intentions of an invasion?
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    OK. I see.

    Now that I think about, one thing you could do is to make sure that the mass was distributed in the submunition as to make it bottom heavy, i.e. relatively dense in the z direction, but symmetric in mass distribution in the xy plane. Put the drill at the bottom, that way if the fall was in the z direction, it would automatically be oriented properly. Then all you would need is a simple accelerometer in the z direction to let you know when the thing had ceased to fall. When the acceleration becomes zero, then start drilling. Any rate, that's a stab in the dark at it.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but did not the Nazis believe in the creation of a superior race?
     
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    Well, if you consider developing technology to kill many people efficiently to be advancement, yeah, they were advanced.
     
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    In some things. Not in others.
    The German victories up to Stalingrad were due primarily due to training and effective leadership.
     
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    Especially when its the technology to kill people as opposed to technology that improves the wellbeing of people.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask you something since you seem to know quite a bit about machining. How do you go about machining a rotor that is well balanced?
     
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    Interesting.
    Much of the technology we enjoy today derives from the advances in military technology since WW1.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    In 1943, which German tank was better than the Russian T34 in your opinion?
     
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    Same is true of tanks, Bob.
     
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    In pure combat performance, the best tank of the war was the Panther G.
     
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    Of course.

    How big do the numbers need to be before the words war criminal are accurate? Is historian an appropriate title for Bacque?

    You have any without Bacque's name on it?
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    What technological advances in computer design and hardware were unique to the British?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you mean take steel or any metal and machine it until it is a rotor, this is easy. If you can locate a large piece of round bar stock, that is best. If you use a square shape, you need to use the 4 jaw chuck.

    Take the unfinished metal and place it in the lathe chuck. This holds the metal and you machine the metal until almost finished. You spin the metal using the Lathe motor and select the proper speed for cutting the metal.

    Important is to turn the metal fast enough and not run the machine too slow. A book called machinery handbook has figures for turning speeds.

    A person not used to using the lathe needs to be taught to use it correctly.

    When the shape is finished, you need to either cut it off using a cut off tool or remove it from the chuck and flip it around so the finished side is into the chuck. Then the lathe will have access to the back side and so can finish the part by using the regular tool bit to machine off what is not needed.

    The part should work with no further balancing.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    No doubt that former Nazi rocket scientists were responsible for developing NASA's space program. Of this, there is no doubt.
     
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    Within what tolerance?
     
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    Actually they did.
    Strategic bombing of cities was highly controversial at the time.

    It's got no anti tank gun. Not equiped to fight other tanks at all. (2 pounder gun with, famously, no armour piercing munitions).
    Tank needs speed, armour and gun. Matilda had one out of these three. Armour.
    It wasn't very successful vs Rommel. We sent all ours to the Russians for them to die in.
    It's an infantry support tank. Designed to move at walking speed and shoot infantry.
     
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    The electronic computer was pretty much designed by Tommy Flowers, a telephone engineer.
     
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    Out-armor. The 2pdr was no better than the German 37L and the vehicle was slow, making it susceptible to any number of things that could kill it. And, of course, it was easy meat for the FlaK18/37.
    The Comet, Firefly, 76mm gun US Shermans and T34/85 were all second tier to the Panther in pure combat performance. Logistically, the Panther was the worst by far, which goes a long way to explain why the Germans lost.
     
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    Tolerance is the range allowed for error.

    If the finished rotor is to be 12 inches, the engineer or designer will decide if it has to be precisely 12 inches or what is much more likely say 12 inches plus or minus 1 - 1,000 of an inch. Thus when you machine the part, if you keep the tolerance to that or better, you comply with the design. Rotors spin so when made on the lathe, since it spins the part, by nature the part is balanced enough. But say they actually do want to balance it, this will be done on a balancing machine so the lathe won't be involved. He asked me how to make it on the lathe.

    Frankly, I never was asked to balance the part finished in the lathe.
     
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    The German tanks and weapons used in WWII and their tactics were the most advanced in the world. The USA started to catch up to them towards the end.
     
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    The question was:
    How do you go about machining a rotor that is well balanced?

    Your response leads the reader to believe that a rotor turned in a lathe will come out of the lathe well balanced.
    That's why I asked about tolerance. Your follow up is what I expected -- for fine balancing, you use another machine.
     
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    Why would parts made on the lathe not be well balanced?

    If one is talking of a rotor intended to spin at say 100,000 rpm, well that is not what one normally encounters in the typical machine shop.Those are specialty parts. Finished on the balance equipment.
     

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