72 Turkish Jets Bomb U.S.-Backed Kurdish Militias in Syria

Trump foreign policy and military policy failures are emerging.

Allies of the USA are fighting each other as Turkey and the Free Syrian Army attack Kurdish enclaves in Syria.

Turkey was supported by the Free Syrian Army which is another ally of the USA. Turks and Syrians are fighting USA ally, the Kurds, with both sides being armed by the USA and Saudis.

The conflict in Syria has entered a new phase with Turkey determined to prevent the rise of Kurdish states.

Trump has not yet evolved a policy to deal with this situation.

Another Trump policy devolves into chaos as Turkey moves away from USA and closer to Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/world/middleeast/turkey-bombs-kurds-syria.html

 

What an absolute complete fabrication filled with bullshit. Turkey moved away from the US the instant Erdogan got into power and Syria's disaster is 100% on Shitbama. There's a special place in Bellevue for brainwashed morons who believe every raindrop that falls in Madagascar is Trump's fault and regurgitate this crap 24 hours a day.

 

I predict we will do as we always do with the Kurds and abandon them as they have already served their purpose. They are no reason to go to war with Turkey over.

 

Trump has your back:

 

We have troops on the ground(Advisors) in the other part of Syrian Kurdish territory. This could become an issue for us with our support for the Kurds, which is current btw. Either way Trump will have to make a military decision concerning this and Turkey will be a more complicated player than say North Korea considering their more advanced military and their logistical control over important land and waterways.

 

The special place in Belview is already reserved for Trumpeizdas there is no more room at the Inn.

 

This was Obama foreign lunacy that got us involved in Syria.

 

Hopefully you have insurance.

 

how?

 

By getting us involved in regime change in Syria? Or are you claiming the US had no involvement in Syria prior to Jan 20, 2017?

 

RW was screaming to oust Assad. YELLING in FACT.
Obama did nothing to oust Assad, according to RW.

 

No actually this was a Bush failure for not realising that there was a Kurdish factor in Syria, in Turkey , in Iraq that would make our Middle East excursions problematic.
No one even considerd that?
And yes as always the Kurds will gain be abandoned by the US once they have served their purpose. But then again that is what we do to,our allies .

 

Thank god he didn't.
Overthrowing dictators and leaving a power vacuum is not a wise chess move. And filling that vacuum w those supporting Islamic terrorism even a worse idea.

 

The truth is, multiple players are complicit in this mess.

It was Obama and Clinton who armed and trained Syrian rebels whose goal was to oust Assad. It wasn't Bush, and it wasn't Trump. It was Obama and Clinton. Of course, congressional Democrats - with two exceptions I can think of - went along with it like the good little Politburo members that they are.

And yes, the other responsible party is a small group of Republican warhawks, like Lindsey Graham and John McCain, who lent support to what Obama and Clinton were doing and who wanted them to do even more. These two warhawks firmly believe that all wars are good wars. They believe that the absence of war is "weakness". And, they believe that being involved in war is "leadership".

They're all complicit. Truth.

 

Turkey is bombing the Kurds at Afrin, the US has for a long time told the Kurds to move east of the Euphrates or risk losing US support. The US will remain in Eastern Syria indefinitely where they support the Kurds and will continue to do so

 

The demand to move east of the Euphrates was for the forces that crossed the Euphrates from the east to fight ISIS. The Kurds have been established in the Afrin area well before that, Im not sure they were included in the demand as they would have had to move across hostile territory which was controlled by ISIS at the time and leave their homes which they have had for years.

 

When will the Chinese invade and settle all this ?

 

RUssia is in the WH driver's seat.

 

Turkey fears a strong armed Kurd presents near their borders because of the fact thatvTrurkey has been suppressing the right of the Kurdish minority in Turkey.

Turkey suppresses the Kurdish minority the same way that Russia suppresses the Chechens. Shithole governments behave like shithole governments that is a fact of life.

 

Again, the Turks met with the RUssians before they did this. The RUssians are in the driver's seat in the WH.

 

It seemed there was more than graham and mccain.
Most RWers in these forums wanted American boots on the ground. I can only assume, Fox and Rush were also for boots on the ground.

Syria was a NO WIN. And Russia was in control.

 

Erdogan is fighting kurds more than ISIS, good, we know which side he choosed.

 

Yes, there may have been more than just McCain and Graham, but they were the cheerleaders.

You may recall that the American public, R's and D's, didn't want anything to do with that war. When Obama was pushing for strikes on Syria after Assad supposedly crossed his "red line", there was a great amount of pushback by the public, and even from the military (mostly anonymously for obvious reasons).



Now that ISIS is largely defeated, the U.S. ought to try to broker peace between the Kurds and Turkey and then get the hell out of Syria. I am perfectly content to let the Russians deal with that mess. That civil war is none of our business.

 

But Syria was purely an Obama thing.

 

Point is they were not promised US support, YPG was told to move east of the Euphrates, those who did not move east were considered not part of the YPG.

2018

2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/af...ds-east-Euphrates-Syria-defense-official.html

As you've pointed out ^^^ is not regarding Afrin however I would absolutely assume the same rule would apply for Afrin as Jarabulus. No YPG fighters to remain

And now the Russians say they have not withdrawn from Afrin
19th Jan 2018
Russia has not withdrawn from Afrin area: Lavrov
http://www.rudaw.net/mobile/english/middleeast/syria/190120181

As you have pointed out Afrin is indeed cut off from the Jarabulus area, however I cannot see Turkey allowing YPG fighters to remain in the Afrin area, the US has specifically said they only support Kurds east of the Euphrates.

Map September 2017