Russians Did Penetrate our Voter Data

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  1. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    Well, thanks for the very carefully thought out statement---Heavy Sigh!
    There is an old saying " You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"----I'll leave you to ponder that, in the meantime the investigation marches on to the truth---
     
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    So, "if" you listened to the video in the OP,3 states were especially vulnerable, Wisconsin "was" one of them---So, the report contradicts your statement here!----
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    17 agencies ,,, or 3 people all of whom did everything possible to prevent Trump from being elected and once elected did everything possible to undermine him.
     
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    Yeah, by your logic, it was these Intelligence Agencies that told trump to send out e-mails to foreign countries for campaign contributions, it was these Intelligence Agencies that told trump to change their platform agenda, it was these Intelligence Agencies that told trump to hire people with Russian Connections to work on trump's campaign, it was the Intelligence Agencies that told trump to work with Wiki-leaks to obtain illegal e-mails,it was the Intelligence Agencies that told trump to grab Women by the Pu##y,it was the Intelligence Agencies that told trump to have his son donnie jr to have a secret meeting at trump tower with Russian operatives---Er---No,you want to place blame----place it where it belongs----that would be trump-----
     
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    If you ask the Russians Mueller will come after you for collusion......
     
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    They are in trouble only because they got some details of their contacts wrong; known as process crimes.
    It is not illegal for a campaign member to make contact with a foreign official, especially if the contact is standard operating practice. But these facts keep messing up the hate Trump agenda.
    I'm not sure which of my points you're scoffing at. But it doesn't matter because both are factually accurate.
     
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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ing-revelations-about-gop-trump-obama-w489548
    So,here's the link to your inquiry--
    Sure do wish the GOP would have joined efforts with the Dems to stop this earlier, but that wasn't their mission-their mission as Mitch McConnell so, publicly stated " Our #1 goal is to make OBAMA a one term POTUS" & even after OBAMA'S second win, it was the GOP's mission to block OBAMA in every way-----

    So, in the interest of not having the same discussion over & over again,We have been having this discussion, please go back & read post #118,119 & then here is the link I provided--question asked & answered---
    So, then now you are agreeing that the Russian's did hack our election process-Great,we are making headway----
     
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    Well, then I ask the question again, provide your proof that none of the rest of us have?
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, maybe. If you dig long enough, wide enough, and deep enough you might actually find something that has a piece of truth...... irrelevant, but true.
     
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    FYI--trump had commissioned a committee to investigate this very issue, a few months ago trump de-commissioned this committee ( you must have missed this memo)--what did they find----Nothing----So,as A Democrat,I am telling you----there was no illegal aliens voting in the 2016 Presidential election---
     
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    But, I am not the one doing the digging, why are you blaming "me"?
    I do know one thing, if it wasn't for our great journalists doing the digging, we would not have found out, for a recent example--that a person ( Porter) who did not have Security Clearance (because he was a spousal abuser)was handling top-secret material on a daily basis-talk about a Security risk----just sayin---
     
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    What on earth does any of this have to do with anything???? Mitch McConnell bloviating about Obama in 2009???? Are you kidding me??
    I do not know how successful Russian hacking was but I never doubted, as news came out, that they tried. I have never said otherwise so I'm not sure what you think I "am now agreeing" with.
     
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    So basically they looked at voter roles but did not effect them? This is a problem how? I mean other than making some people paranoid. Sorry but that isn't even illegal. almost anyone can look at the voter roles.
     
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    I was referring to Mueller's digging.
     
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    Follow the money. Hillary & Obama & the DNC paid Perkins Coie who paid FusionGPS who illegally paid foreign national, Christopher Steele, to secure Putin's help in interfering in the 2016 election. If that isn't money laundering to hide the money:

    The Act and Commission regulations include a broad prohibition on foreign national activity in connection with elections in the United States. 52 U.S.C. § 30121 and generally, 11 CFR 110.20.
     
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    Oh,your going to have to provide me some links to follow here to back up your statements, especially,you saying OBAMA paid Perkin's Cole!
    Fusion GPS "Illegally paid"?
     
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    So you're concerned (although not enough to actually do anything about it other than try to blame Obama) but what REALLY concerns you is that Trump might get tied to it?

    Interesting
     
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    So you're still trying to claim that Clinton colluded with the Russians to LOSE the election?

    No kidding. And some people actually fall for that line of BS?
     
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    And it concerns me if Charlie Mazeratz gets tied to it, or any John Q. Public.
     
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    The message I got is that illegal aliens count in House districting and, therefore, in the electoral college. For every 700,000 illegals in blue states, where illegals can open the door to census workers, get another vote in Congress and another electoral vote for president. So, yes, drug and human traffickers interfere in our elections and in our government.
     
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    So,again,please back up your statements with a link-otherwise it's just chatter---But,that being said, ( DACA) reports put out recently & also I attended a meeting last night where a Immigration lawyer went from the 1800's to present with all the legislation about Immigrants & her polls say there are about 800 thousand DACA,now I can understand DACA recipients opening their doors to a Census worker, but if a person is here illegally, they will not open the doors, the Census worker would be guessing---So,nobody knows exactly how many as you say illegal aliens are here---I can't imagine the electoral college giving a vote based on a guess---
     
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    They were IN the data base.

    And you


    Don't



    Care
     
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    Well, stop trying to make it about Trump. I agree it should have been done by Obama but since he failed, it is up to trump to finish it. And the republican will finish it.
     

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