Sound Off: What should be done about school shooters?

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I have no doubt that is true. The problem is I am not surprise if the FBI does not have the resources to investigate ever person reported by a you tube member. That would be like if someone reported a PF member to the FBI. They may add them to a list but it is not realistic to expect they have the resources to investigate them in detail.

 

Its not a low priority at all

The military is our first line of defense and we owe them the best weapons possible to fight with

 

Let me know when America averages more than a mass pipe bombing (4 or more injured) per day.

 

Reports are the FBI cantacted the man who reported Cruz the next morning

But then lost interest

 

Metal detectors with an armed guard sounds good - probably not a silver bullet, but maybe a step.

If you see the layout of that school, it appears to have had a number of different entry points.

Good to consider, but I don't think it's as easy as having one metal detector at the front door.

Schools aren't the only "active shooter" sites we've had, of course.

 

It wasn’t horribly long ago that a mere horse thief was hung by the neck in the town square. That would leave an impression. We can even include rapists and child molesters too.

 

The biggest single change airports took from 9/11 was to control ingress and egress. Prior to 9/11, a waiting family could meet arrivals at the gate. Now, you must wait until after baggage claim and exiting the terminal.

It seems that reducing entry / exit points at schools would help along with posting manned gates at each. Would there be some inconvenience, especially for larger schools? Yes, there would. I'm sure those students who have been killed in school shootings though would be willing to suffer such inconveniences for a chance at life.

 

Actually, defunding the ATF probably increases American safety. Then they can't afford to do this:

 

You'll end up with teachers shooting kids who can't conjugate a verb.

Or a teacher going through a bad divorce will go on a rampage.

 

We already put enough trust in teachers to leave them alone unsupervised with students. We give teachers full authority to have one on one sessions with students with little to no oversight.

There isn't a perfect solution but automatically discounting proposed methods because of a worst-case scenario is short-sighted. That's the same method used by 2nd Amendment folks who say that if you take away their guns, the government will feel more freedom to impinge on their rights.

 

''The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers..''

barring that, instant internet notoriety should come with instant and publicized punishment.

 

Trust, you say?

I bet way, way, way more teachers hump their students than students shoot up schools.

Yeah, let's arm them.

 

Heh.

Pseudocons are actually arguing we should be arming civilian government employees.

 

And arming government employee teachers would make things safer?

 

No.

Democrats right this moment loathe government. Give them enough guns and they would storm the capital in DC and toss the lot out. Give them enough guns and the Government would no longer exist.

I do not keep my loaded and cocked semi automatic pistol in a gun safe. I keep it close to me so I have time to spring into action should the need of a cop arrive. Keep in mind what you expect of Cops. You expect to see an armed intruder, you get to dial up the phone, place the call, they tell you to don't do rash things and when the cop arrives, you are dead.

Cops do not protect you. Take the case of this young girl killed here this past weekend. She and 2 of her coworkers were in the same car. We don't know the whole story yet but the male and female in the car decided to kill her. She was taken to a 2 lane road in the hills and stabbed a lot. She was gravely wounded. She crawled 100 feet to the road and somebody driving at 2:30 in the Am passed her and stopped. She was taken to the hospital. Her last dying words was the names of the two that killed her. If you think cops could have been in that lonely area, that time of the morning, guess again.

http://fox2now.com/2018/02/13/calif...st-words-lead-authorities-to-murder-suspects/

Even if the intruder kills me. At least I can get off some shots. But calling a cop? Only if you are living and care to report the incident.

 

Sounds like you have a low opinion of teachers.

 

I doubt there can be a solution that will totally eliminate the problem but I hope we can make progress.

You point out logistic that need to be answered. We either need to have metal detectors at all entrances or restrict entry to those entrances with them. The argument against this will be the cost of the equipment and how much it will slow down students entering the school. If it takes a long time to get the students through it may not be realistic. I already accept that the US has the highest per student cost for education so adding a bit more will not be the end of the world for safety but the delays in getting students though could be a problem.

I already mentioned that if we make schools a harder target it will probably just move the shooters to other easier locations like malls but I do not think we can solve all of the problems at once and if we can make schools safer it would be a huge win.

 

Government employees.

Union government employees.

I thought you pseuedocons hate unionized teachers.

Sheesh! Positively schizophrenic!

 

Same thing, I agree. Though “thoughts and prayers” doesn’t demand any government legislation that piss off a lot of law abiding citizens.

 

Sounds like you have a low opinion of teachers.

 

A minimum age of 21 to purchase or possess firearms or ammo. That should be an easy one.

 

Not that easy when you consider you can join the military at 17 and become better trained to use a firearm than most people.

 

So what. If they are in the military they use all sorts of weapons they can't use in civilian life.

And I don't think we should be allowing dumb kids to sign their lives away anyway. The military takes advantage of the lack of frontal lobe development in young men.

 

Spot on.
The FBI checked out the FB poster. Did not turn up a person to whom it was that made the post. From what I heard.

But yes, All gov't buildings, I think, are gun free.
But lets put military like solutions in kindergardens