Men's Equal Right to Abort

Men have no right to abort a baby. If the woman wants to keep it, they can. However, men should have to pay no child support if the woman decides to keep the baby IMO when the man wants to abort.

 

What you are suggesting will lead to even more abortions.

Men paying child support is a good thing, one should take responsibility for there actions. Women on the other hand are allowed to murder their mistakes.

 

You're referring to financial abortions. I agree men should be able to have financial abortions to make it equal.

 

Oh good, let's celebrate the demise of men even more via legalized abdication of responsibility.

One of the main problems in America is that our culture places very little value on the nuclear family yet the degradation of that core unit is a cause in many of our current issues. An obvious example is that of Mr. Cruz who did not have a strong nuclear family who raised him. That's clearly not the only cause of his actions but just as clearly the lack of such support does put children at risk for self-destructive (and worse) behavior.

So no... if you are "man" enough to make a baby, you damn sure should be man enough to support and raise it. Otherwise, keep it in your pants. Degrading yourself to the level of thoughtless and uncaring women (who use abortion to avoid responsibility) is simply foolish and serves the pro-life movement no good.

 

Perfect.

 

Or--------------shouldnt a man have the right to demand the woman shouldnt get an abortion, since the baby is half his?

 

No.

Unless a man signs a document that he will undergo surgery to mimic any and all of the complications that occur with a
pregnancy - up to, and including death. If the woman loses her job or has to postpone promotions - then so does the man.
If the woman developed diabetes, then the man will have to mimic the problem. Everything. Stretch marks. Post-partum depression. urination problems. Everything.

Oh? What's that? That's the woman's problems. Right. HER problems. Not yours.

 

A good thing if one hates individual liberty - the main principle on which this nation was founded, and the rule of law I suppose.

 

Nonsensical and fallacious jibberish. Consent to sex is not consent to creation of a baby.

Should an accidental pregnancy happen, there is a choice that is available.
1)allow that pregnancy to continue to term or 2) terminate the pregnancy.

The man is not responsible for the unilateral decision of a woman to allow a pregnancy to continue to term.

The one who abdicating responsibility is a woman who brings brings a baby into the world and then expecting someone else to pay for the consequences of her unilateral decision.

 

Two of my best friends got wrangled into bad marriages because, just about the time they were going to break up, their GFs got pregnant.

Women have been using pregnancy to trap men forever.

I hate using condoms but it's better than trusting a woman to take her birth control pills.

PS guys: Lambskin condoms. Woohoo!!! $5 a pop but it's almost like wearing nothing at all.

 

You fathered the baby so it's your responsibility. if you don't like the law, keep it in your pants.

 

No such thing as an accidental pregnancy. You dropped a load in a fertile woman's belly and that was no accident.

 

It's 50/50. Men should have some say in the matter. If the woman wants to abort and the man wants to keep it, he has no say. If the woman wants to keep it and the man wants to abort, he should not be held financially responsible. Unwanted babies are a cost to society.

 

The man isn't responsible for the woman's decision. He is responsible for his own. Don't want a baby? Wear a condom. Don't trust the condom? Don't have PIV intercourse. Life is full of consequences. Males who don't recognize that aren't men... they are merely boys who are physically past puberty.

 

Same goes for her..

 

So the man has to go along with whatever choice of the woman, to kill his child, or keep it and charge him money for 18 years if she decides she doesn't want him around.. Or even if he puts everything he has towards his child the woman can easily take the kids from him whenever she chooses the way our court systems are..

Even though the pregnancy is just as much the fault of the woman, if unwanted, as it is the mans.. I would argue even more the womans..


Family law is drastically biased against men and their is a reason things such as MGTOW exist..
If you haven't researched the MGTOW side of the debate you are just ignorant, they are not just to be cast away as neckbeards..

Their IS a lot of injustice going on with regards to these matters in our court system, that leftists will make excuses for and try to justify all day..

 

It is not societies responsibility to pay the bill because of some POS who wants to bastardize his child, and that is exactly what would happen. There is no difference between a woman who would abort and a man who would bastardize.

The problem is not unwanted children, it's the irresponsible parents who will not take responsibility for there actions and the life they created that are plaguing this country.

 

Hey, I don't make the laws...

I believe in family and traditional American values. And I believe a man should take responsibility for his actions and strive to be better for his self and his family. A man who will not raise or help raise his own child is garbage, regardless of how terrible the mother is or how skewed the laws are.

 

Then use birth control.

 

A WOman who will not raise or help raise hER own child is garbage, regardless of how terrible the FAther is or how skewed the laws are.


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RIGHT?

 

You know, I used the argue in favour of the exact same thing.

Then I realized that it makes no sense. See, when a child is actually born, it's not about you anymore. You have a child, it's your damn child to take care of and support.

It's about the child, and you'll work and pay for the welfare of that child. Paying to support your child isn't a punishment, because it isn't about you. It's about the damn child.

 

Best damn post all week.

 

but you can so easily just murder them?

 

So she should be allowed to kill her partner's baby because of that?

 

But what this does is say that men have more responsibility than women.

Because a man has to think about the consequences at the moment of having sex a woman doesn't have to.