I know a person who knew Obama when he was at the University of Chicago Law School. "Empty Briefcase..."
It's only been a little over a year now, but it seems like lifetimes since we've had an intelligent, mature president of impeccable character sitting in the White House. I thought for sure this disgusting pig would be out of the White House by now.
And FOX and AM radio is NOTHING compared to the MSM, most newspapers, nightly talk shows, daily talk shows, cable talk shows, comedians and Hollywood. It’s simply not comparable.
It was a different time 6 years ago. The destabilization of the wars started under Bush destablized the Mid-East and allowed a new threat to arise: ISIS. The Russians' political war hadn't become apparent and the US didn't have an Admin full of Russia-friendly quislings.
So, you think the Middle East was stable prior to 1993? And ISIS, AKA Obama's "JV TEAM" is on on Obama. Bush had nothing to do with that debacle. 100% on Barry.
After you are specific and bring in a link of what Trump did right.m Trump has only done one thing right so you have an easy job. Not fair.
You claimed Obama got things right. I have made no claims. It is on you to back up YOUR CLAIMS. Can you do it?
I am not playing that game. If you believe that he got things wrong you post the proof, not the opinion.
Yes, it's a strange thing to witness. For anyone who ever wondered what it would be like to have an incompetent madman as president, we now have our answer.
No, what i did in this thread was mock the OP for whining about how people treat Trump. I find it ridiculous after the shitty way pubs/cons treated the Obama family.
Obama and Trump are both equally bad liars, as in the lie a lot The difference is, Obama is politically trained to lie while Trump does it in a business sense. The fact that both of you sides think one is worse tan the other is flat out just funny. But the Russia collusion thing is laso just as funny, at this point the only people who still want it looked into are hyper Progressives and they don't see that with every push they are merely insuring Trump's second term
Why do you ignore the way that the Left treated Bush? Calling him the AntiChrist and all kinds of things? You cannot just cherry pick when to chose.... The division in this country is truly sad. It is something that political leaders are using to help win elections. Obama used the hatred of Bush to divide the country further and push himself through a win. Trump did the same thing just with a different group of voters. But of course, both sides just sit and point fingers
I didnt ignore nor cherry pick. I wasnt "into" politics then. If "the left" was as bad about Bush then shame on those who did it. I live in south Texas. Trust me....down here the Bush family is loved.
It's documented thoroughly and admitted by all that on all the key issues we face today Obama who I voted for his first term was wrong. Do we really need to rehash it? It gets wearisome. Eight years of strategic patience which Hillary and the state department sold him on was wrong. Just applying sanctions and forgetting about the kid maniac and his sister was a mistake. Obama was so likable and manipulative I think he could have done better with KJU Obamas perpetuation of our failed ME policy was a mistake. I'm not talking about pulling out of Iraq even though it was a mistake built on Bushes mistake of using non existent MWDs and 9/11 to invade Iraq then Afghanistan... I'm talking about Syria. The only people that think a President can't change inhumane and evil geopolitical policy are the people stating it. IE the arrogant State Depths lifers. I heard them say exactly that on NPR. It was a mistake not to stand up to them. We did irreparable harm in Syria. Obamas trust in Hillary was a mistake. Libya was a mistake. Recognized by all. Those are just the foreign policy mistakes.. The economic ones were just as bad. So to say President Trump in just one year of office has made more mistakes than Obama when so far he's just been forced to clean up the mess that he was left.. I find it silly and disingenuous. Obama is still hands down the guy I'd rather have a beer with. I hope the upcoming investigations don't get him in trouble. Smart guy I bet he had some buffers. Hillary I hope frys. She was stupid and arrogant. I'll settle for her.
As someone who has suggested multiple times that Obama should have gone through impeachment hearings, I call BS. If we were just talking about left/right or repub/democrat, then sure, I would agree with you. Both sides are just as bad about lying. But Trump is another animal entirely. He lies nearly as often as he breathes. He lies politically and he lies "in a business sense." Both. And as a business professional, it is insulting that you would think that lying "in a business sense" is somehow a lesser offense. Trump has defrauded investors and customers. He has cheated them out of fortunes. There is no remotely objective measure by which Obama is a more frequent liar than him. Since I know you are already reaching for it, the whole "You can keep your doctor" thing? Yeah, Trump lied way, way worse about his own healthcare plan. And what's worse is that he'll lie about anything, literally anything, no matter how easily it can be disproved. He doesn't even have a basic concept of truth, only image. Reality doesn't matter. Only perception matters to him. We can talk all day about Obama's terrible leadership or Bush's terrible leadership, but Trump is far worse than either. And what's sad is the way he's trained his worshipers into attributing his behavior to business acumen. No, being a con man doesn't make you a business tycoon; it makes you a thief. Many of us -- most of us actually -- make money by solving problems for people and offering helpful products and services. Just because Trump thinks he has to cheat people to make a buck doesn't mean the rest of us are that depraved.
JEFF SESSIONS: FBI’s Use of Anti-Trump Dossier to Obtain FISA Warrant ‘Will Be Investigated.’ You would certainly hope so.
Sure there is, look at all the small things that are coming to light. Obama is a good liar and politically trained to keep his mouth shut, Trump doesn't know when to shut his trap. The increases in Title 9 making our schools their own Judge, Jury and Executioner, spying on private citizens and creating "dossiers" on whoever doesn't agree with the vision he has towards the future, his actions (or lack thereof) towards Russia even though he admitted and it has now been researched even further that he knew for years what was actually going on. These are all lies, a lot of people would say WORSE than the back and forth flip flopping Trump does in front of the camera. Trump is just a salesman who will say whatever he needs to based on his audience, but so far he has been less of a "political liar" than Obama has. Is one worse than the other? Well I guess that depends on how hyper partisan you are and which side you support. I think they are both liars, I have a strong feeling you however will have a come back towards this about how "evil" Trump is and likely add a personal attack towards me in order to degrade my character to anyone reading this. You are simply a hyper partisan and you have chosen to ignore one and bring to light the other. You already brought the "You can keep your Dr. ..." thing because you know it is true and are trying to paint me in a corner by admitting the most obvious slip up that could actually be judged by society in real times. But the Dr. quote doesn't bother me so much that he lied about it, it just bothers me that they knew exactly what was going to happen and did it anyways. Why would you do this unless you were hoping it all to collapse so you could start over? Obama was smart enough to work behind the scenes and create a Left Wing world that was more to his liking. And you can be as angry as you want, but being a business "tycoon" makes you a business "tycoon". Trump played the game of Capitalism and won, he has made A LOT of money. You can argue all you want about how he did it and I will more than likely agree with you, but it is a fact, he did it, he has a lot of money, period. Meanwhile, Obama has only recently begun to build a massive fortune because of his political success. Yet another lie that is painted bright and shiny because he truly is a master at oratory engagements. The more we dig the more we are finding out that the Obama administration did some shaaaaady things, like, BAD, things that if were done by Trump you would throw a fit over. The whole thing frustrates me, while I am fiscally conservative, I would love to consider myself a Democrat. But the Democratic party does nothing but use political double speak to use identity politics to push an agenda that to me looks more and more like Marxism. People like Jordan Peterson and Camille Paglia are life long Democrats that are a great example of what I am talking about. The Democratic Party is digging themselves into a whole and I think that having someone like Trump in the White House is going to be interesting in the long run as he "outs" a lot of the backdoor politics we have become all too accustomed to
You chose to use one piece of history to judge the present situation. In order to do so, you chose a specific time frame which is what cherry picking is. And yes, the Left was horrible with Bush, I find it pretty disingenuous that you would try to act like you didn't know this. Heck, one of my favorite bands had his face painted as a clown for their album on their CD.