Another dumb idea:Arm teachers.

you should, big talker, small walker

 

Wonderful still to live in the Eighteenth Century. Our Senedd needs more powers, but the last time the Queen told me to do anything, I must have been out. So far American 'liberty' seems to amount to ignorance of basic grammar and of anywhere outside your weird fantasy-world.

Unlike you, child, I cannot walk on water, have no interest in visiting racist countries, and almost certainly wouldn't be allowed in if I did. Are you rational outside these obsessions of yours?

 

Ah, yes. I often have wondered what the real reason for our Revolutionary War. Thanks for explaining that.

 

Your masters didn't want to pay for their defence against France, so they sold out and got other people to fight a war against their king and drive out a high proportion of the population. The French would have taken over in due course, but we beat them elsewhere.

 

That’s bizarre but it does explain some things.

 

And apparently you can't follow through on your tough guy talk either

 

This Kentucky school district just voted to let teachers carry concealed guns

Teachers could soon be carrying concealed guns inside schools in Pike County under a proposal that was preliminarily approved Monday evening by the Pike County School Board.

The unanimous decision came after the board heard concerns about school safety from teachers, parents and administrators during a town hall meeting at Pike County Central High School.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article202341909.html

 

The point is to have armed teachers as a last, desperate line of defense. Is that as good as a Navy SEAL in the same situation? Of course not. But it is better than nothing, which is what we have now in most schools. (Some already have armed staff in place.)

 

I think having police at the school is a good step, and I thought that was already common. Can't have a bunch there, of course, but then most of these shootings are the work of a lone scumbag anyway.

Of course, if we are concerned with preventing mass shootings elsewhere, not just at schools, then none of this will matter. Arming teachers won't help people in movie theaters, churches, malls and city streets, and where ever else these people have struck or may strike in the future. The most comprehensive solution will focus on keeping them from arming themselves and ever bringing their sick plans to fruition.

 

Are you really trying to convince someone that Jesus didn't care for the poor, the sick, the children and the elderly that the cons take from to feed their greed? Do you really think Jesus condones the evangelical right electing Tramp as POTUS? Or are you just demonizing religion in general?

 

Wow! You really don't get it at all. You don't even get the difference between surgical instruments and guns. There's no cure for that kind of logic.

 

...and you don't get the difference between tithing and taxes.

 

Because you say so? No, you simply made an error in judgement.

 

You might want to learn how to have a conversation. A good conversation is not how you are doing it.

 

I believe if you study politics, you will realize it was the Germans of the north states that shoved him into office.

We republicans do care for those you just named. But we use our money. We do not pass laws forcing you to obey us. We put our community effort out there and our checks get to the poor. Giveing that money to government could mean it ends up paying the Iranians off.

Greed is you using not your money, but my money as were it your money. Greed is doing things wrong that we object to.

I am not evangelical, am not German, do not go to church all that often, but think of Trump as the man that actually seems to understand government When it is not a function of governing, he gets rid of it.

 

The Bible does not anywhere indicate that tithing is applicable or expected in our time at all. It was a system which was brought in following the exodus from Egypt and the forming of the children of Israel into a nation of their own.

Their nation was divided into 12 tribes, and 11 of these tribes grew crops, had animals, inherited land etc. The twelfth tribe, Levi, were the priests and administrators of the nation, and had no land, animals, crops etc, so the 11 tribes had to give the tribe of Levi 10% of their income. This mathematically works out that they were then all equal, because from this part which was given to the tribe of Levi, they still had to make their own offering of a tenth to God, the same as the other tribes had to. (see Numbers 18:25-39)

The tithing to give to the Levites was basically playing the same part as our taxes do today – our taxes pay for the everyday administration of our country. The Levites did everything from attending the tabernacle/temple, judging disputes, dignosing illnesses, being the judicial system etc.

Tithing was part of the old law, or what is sometimes referred to as ‘the law of Moses’. It was given specifically to the nation of Israel, God’s chosen people:

Ezekiel 20:10-12 “Therefore I led them out of Egypt and brought them into the desert.
I gave them my decrees and made known to them my laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them.
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the LORD made them holy.”

The law of Moses was a law of sacrificing to God for the atonement of sins. This was looking forward to the time when the one true sinless Lamb, Jesus Christ, would be offered to atone for the sins committed by Adam and Eve. When Jesus came, and as a sinless sacrifice for our sinful nature, he fulfilled the old law by his sacrifice and brought in a new one, referred to as ‘the law of Christ’. The old law was then complete, it was obsolete.

Romans 10:44 “Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”

Tithing was part of the old law which was done away with. We cannot continue with parts of the law which we choose, the old law was gone. The Jews continued with the old law because they refused to recognize the true position of Jesus Christ, that he was he was God’s only son. So if we keep on with parts of the old law, we are doing the same. We as christians have never been under the old law, it was only following the rejection of Christ by the Jews that we, as ‘Gentiles’ were given the opportunity to be part of God’s plan.

Money was definitely donated for the purpose of supporting very poor members in Jerusalem, but never to pay to a leader so that became his income.

Voluntarily helping someone, as the Macedonian brethren did for Paul, is quite different from tithing. We should be aware of others needs, and when we see the opportunity to help privately, then we should do so. The message of the New Testament is that our offerings in God’s service should be voluntary and that no amount is set, and that the accumulation of wealth, even by a church, is not right. Rather we should give to the poor.

One of the very great dangers of churches demanding tithes is the accompanying perceived threat or fear that acceptance by God depends on the amount of money given. That acceptance is something money cannot buy. Often pastors of churches who tithe are very wealthy people – at the expense of their congregations, yet they often claim that they are wealthy because they have been blessed by God! Yet Paul could say, “I will very gladly spend for you everything I have and expend myself as well……I have not been a burden to you.” (2 Corinthians 12:16).
http://www.bible.org.nz/where-in-the-bible-does-it-say-you-are-to-give-10-of-your-income-for-tithes/

In Matthew 17:24-27, we learn that Jesus did indeed pay taxes:

After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma tax came to Peter and asked, "Doesn't your teacher pay the temple tax?"

"Yes, he does," he replied.

When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. "What do you think, Simon?" he asked. "From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own sons or from others?"

"From others," Peter answered.

"Then the sons are exempt," Jesus said to him. "But so that we may not offend them, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours." (NIV)

The Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke each tell of another account, when the Pharisees tried to trap Jesus in his words, and find a reason to accuse him. In Matthew 22:15-22, we read:

Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"

But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"

"Caesar's," they replied.

Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."
https://www.thoughtco.com/bible-on-paying-taxes-700647

 

So when you get called out for not knowing the difference between guns and surgical instruments, you want to change the conversation. Embarrassing isn't it.

 

We republicans do care for those you just named. But we use our money. We do not pass laws forcing you to obey us.
You republicans just passed a tax law raising taxes on the poor. Caught you again.

Greed is you using not your money, but my money as were it your money.
Now you bare false witness....it's the republicans that made the new tax laws, not me.

If you knew that baring false witness like that brought the karma of you being reincarnated as a peasant in Syria, would you continue to do so? "Your money" "The first shall be last and the last shall be first."-Karma
It's easier to not believe in Karma until you have to face it?

"but think of Trump as the man that actually seems to understand government"
That's your justification for electing a Russian stooge? Someone that destroys the foundations of this country.

 

The poor did not get taxes raised. But let's say for chuckles you are correct. Do you truly want the poor to use government free of charge?

The new tax laws return to the public money they once owned. Government did not provide the money, it took the money.

I would say if we had a russian stooge, it had to be Obama. He reached over and patted the leg of the Russian boss and promised him he would be a lot more flexible. I

Who let the Russians meddle with the election? Obama did. He was then the president. And he alleges he knew by May of 2016.

Trump was trying to get the nomination as Obama sat back and claimed there is no Russian meddling and Trump is nuts to claim the election is rigged. Turns out Obama conned us if the Russians actually meddled. But by all accounts, any efforts by them failed.

Why do you people want so much to have Russia as your enemy as you want North Korea as your friend?

 

Look, merely because you say things in no way means you told the truth. Wake up and attempt to have a decent conversation.

Only you claim i don't know guns from surgical instruments. Find where I even said surgical instruments? Let me know when you have failed.

 

You put a lot of work into that deflection. I could be wrong but didn't you earlier dismiss Jesus?

Somebody spoke of Jesus. I piped up that when he lived, taxes by the Romans were 10 percent. Across the board.

Jesus was content with 10 percent. This nation charges a lot of humans far more than 10 percent. My church is the only church I can speak of and my church does expect 10 percent. The money they collect flows to the poor, to those in need and to victims. It also provides more buildings. We do not pay the clergy.

 

Again, your logic fails you. Obama slapped Russia with sanctions that Tramp refused to allow. Tramp is the one that has done nothing about Russian meddling. It is Russia that helped Tramp to become POTUS, not who Obama wanted. It is Tramp that continues to defend Russia, not liberals.

 

Even you know that you equated a doctor with the mass shooter. Playing your circular game will not justify your failure.