I blame the left for mass shootings

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  1. Dayton3

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    lynching's of African Americans were far, far, far rarer than people trolling for acts of racism would have you believe.
     
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    That's funny, because after terror attacks where trucks are driven into large crowds of people killing and wounding hundreds I don't hear anyone calling for "common sense truck laws" or "common sense immigration laws".
     
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    The KKK has no dems...you know that....no bigot voted for Obama....the KKK loves bigots like Trump.
     
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    Jake says, “I blame the left for mass shootings” lets look at some of his major points:

    The arguments presented are not logical and often not true.


    1. School mass shootings have against predominantly white student schools. There have been no mass shootings again any black or Latino majority school.

    That is because almost all school shooters are white and attacking the school the attend or attended.


    2. Christians, school and church, have been targeted - specifically white Christians - for mass shootings. There have been no mass shootings against any other religion, though the left and Democrats incessantly rant that it is Muslims who are victims of discrimination.


    I seem to remember mass shooting attacks against Sikhs, Jews, Gays and Black Christians


    3. The Democratic Party and left began unbashedly calling police murderers, remaining silent about or supportive of chanting for murdering police officers - and within months police were being assassinated exactly as the left and Democratic Party was urging


    This is simply not true some individuals may have said this but not a majority of the party or of liberals. This is as silly as drawing the conclusion that all anti abortion people are killers because anti abortion people have killed doctors and bombed clinics


    4. The Las Vegas shooter targeted "rednecks," people attending a C-W concert, with bigotry against "rednecks" a non-stop theme of the left and Democratic Party.


    No it was a target of opportunity he had scouted other events including a rock concert.


    “With raging attacks by the leftwing and the Democrat talking heads, literally members of Congress were attacked at a baseball practice.”

    And Democrat Gabby Giffords was attacked at a public forum in a parking lot.


    Extra credit question: What do all mass shootings have in common?
     
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    Your attempt to justify racist murders is "you shall reap what you sow."
     
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    And the Parkland shooter is now reported to have swastikas engraved on his magazines.
     
  7. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not justifying them at all. Just saying they were not remotely as common as race baiters enjoy imagining.
     
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    Per population size, no. I collect vintage and antique firearms and what is clear is that Americans, women included, were armed to the teeth. There was an astonishing number and diversity of firearms. It is particularly interesting the high percentage of handguns clearly meant as conceal-carry, including specifically for women. Guns specifically for boots, thigh holsters, "muff" guns women could hide in their winter hand muffs. Powder puff boxes that really were disguised pistols and a vast variety of secret, hidden and concealable personal defense guns.

    Rather than gun free zones, guns were everywhere. Any building. School. Government building. Courthouses. People could have guns everywhere. When the era of bank robberies and gangs was at its height, it was rare that within minutes, often seconds, citizens were shooting at the robbers from every direction. Simple, a mass shooter wouldn't have lasted long in the past.

    It is important to remember there are far more police per population than now. The concept of "relying on the police" had little meaning to many Americans. Unlike now, it was largely accepted a person's defense and defense of loved ones larger depended on themselves and each other. In terms of government, most people wanted to government to stay away from them and out of their lives.

    The comparison is exactly perfect and it shows guns are absolutely not the problem. If so, mass shootings would have been going on all these decades. "Assault" and high capacity firearms are NOT the problem because for decade they were not. As gun free zone signs went up everywhere and nearly all people banned from being armed, while the leftwing and Democratic Party in extremely aggressive and violent word choices called for all enemies of the left to die and be destroyed, at the same rate then mass shootings increased. Mass shooters are doing what the leftwing and Democratic Party told them to do - eliminate the "enemy" with "blood in the streets."
     
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    How does that matter in relation to what I said?
     
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    Yaaaaaawn, ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz............

    Let's do this, you blame them, they'll blame you, it's beautiful. No one in america is responsible for anything as per usual and we'll do it all again in a few days at the next one, k?
     
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    Fact. Millions and millions of more guns exist now. There are many more car accidents too. Duh
     
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    Germany proves it does not work because of the horrific victimization that resulted. Literally, it is the destruction of the German society and unstoppable extinction of indigenous secular Germans having their own country.

    As I pointed out, leftwingers such as you openly call for the police to be destroyed as "murderers" and you and your team have succeeded in getting many police officers outright assassinated.

    You message is exactly the point of this thread. It is exactly, 100%, leftwingers with messages such as your message that are the cause of mass shootings. The cause of the assassinations of police officers comes directly from Democrats and the leftwing such as your message.

    It would would take only a couple hours to find messages of yours on the forum that are directly and exactly the link and trigger to virtually every mass shooting and mass murder in the USA. Ranting against Christians. Christians mass murdered, then another mass murder of Christians. Ranting against rednecks. Rednecks mass murdered. Declaring the white race is evil, mass murder after mass murder of white people. The latest call by the leftwing and Democratic Party is for the destruction of senior citizens, literally calling for them to "die."
     
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    Deaths per miles had dramatically dropped and far more people per population were armed and carried firearms than do now - and virtually everywhere.

    If you can prove there are more guns per person now in the USA than in the past, prove it. The exact opposite is true. In fact, you know that as studies posted on the forum that the number of households with firearms has declined.

    What has increased? The HATE, HATE, HATE rantings and sobbing of doom and evil against the specific demographic groups that are targeted, the increased prohibitions of people being armed, increasing anti-gun laws and ever growing "gun free" zones - which is where nearly all mass shooting occur. Literally who is killed is who the Democratic Party and leftwing says must be destroyed and where they are destroyed is where the leftwing advertises they are defenseless.
     
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    Nothing new, the aristocracy has always engaged in this stuff on this land mass; revisit Bacon's Rebellion. And the Powell Memorandum.
     
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    Except facts show more guns / less gun homicides.

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    Murder yes. Mass shootings of innocent people at schools, malls and movie theaters no. Something in our minds has changed to where people think nothing of committing mass shootings. Mass shootings of innocent people has only been a thing the past 20-30 years. We've had guns in this country for over 200 years. Why all of a sudden now are mass shootings of innocent people a thing?
     
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    There are millions and millions of more guns now than ever. This is ridiculous
     
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    People who commit mass shootings don't think nothing of it. They think of it a lot. It's incredibly important to them. It's a form of suicide that allows them to permanently tie themselves to a place and time
     
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    How many of these shooters do the swastika white pride thingy...not exactly a calling card of "The Left".
     
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    Wow, this is classic. Here is a typical Liberal that has no idea that the KKK was founded by Democrats. Remember Democrat Senator Robert Byrd? He was some sort of Grand Yahoo in the KKK. It doesn't matter what the modern KKK wants to call themselves, their roots and beliefs are strictly Democrat. History is a bitch.
     
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    More gun control and less homicides
     
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    You were talking about some group killing another group back around the 30's, right. Did I guess the right groups?
     
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    Sure...in countries where there weren't already hundreds of millions of guns in circulation.

    If, by gun control, you mean the govt taking all of the hundreds of millions of guns away from citizens then sure, there will be less homicides. Do you really see that happening???
     
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    Switzerland and Canada
     
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    Having fired assault weapons, both as a civilian and in the US Army, the term assault to me is an emotional word. Used on purpose to achieve some political gain or effect. I agree totally with the above essay. Having been a loyal Democrat up to 1980, I have seen this on both sides. Do you know when I was a Democrat, we did not call to ban assault weapons? Kennedy was executed and still we did not call for us citizens to be stripped of their right as called for by the 2nd amendment. Don't any Democrat give me the **** and bull story that it is the gun. As the poster says above it is the people. The first mass killing I personally recall was in TX and it was the tower shooter who killed from a tower a number of students. Cops finally killed him. I did not then hear calls to disarm a unique segment of the public owning fast firing weapons or automatic fire weapons. The gangs prompted the actions by the Feds in the 1930s who used Tommy Guns to take out gangs of people. So the Feds decided not to ban the machine gun, but to have people get a license to own one and fire it.

    Politicians ought to re educate the public so they see the actual danger is not the gun, but the person shooting it. Sadly it seems due to the loss of law abiding on the part of Democrats, the OP is accurate to point at Democrats. Oakland Mayor Schaaf for instance defies the Feds on the lawful carrying out of their duties they swore an oath to carry out. Schaaf is by far not the sole mayor to defy law. She joins the Mayors of San Francisco and even to a lesser degree, the Mayor of San Jose. In his case he did not alert the illegals of a pending arrest but is very favorable to the illegal aliens in the south end of the SF Bay.
     
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