The coming Trump landslide......

What Trump is doing today doesn't necessarily mean he'll be running in 2020.......and yes, I'm well aware of his fundraisers and rallies - these are the only events that allow him to bask in the glow and adulation of his disciples. Like an addict, his ego requires a constant fix.......

 

That happens when one is use to winning.

 

Peeps actually buy into bullshit like this?

Anyhow, no question Donny the dick is popular, the US is filled with morons who adore him.

 

Too bad nobodys convinced the DNC they have problems to be fixed... theyve been a one pony show since 2016.

DUMP TRUMP!

 

Yeah those at MSDNC did buy into what Donny Duetsch was pimping. But don't worry it was for only a minute or two. Then they fell back off into their TDS.

 

Dems have lost well over 1000+ seats ACROSS the board since 2010 (local, state, and fed levels).

Tell us all what dems have done to change that.

Steve

 

Well we do know they can hear.....all it takes is a few tweets From The Donald and they're all ears.

 

One needs to be careful in conflating the stock market directly with the economy. He should have used the term "stock market" as this (wrongfully so but it is what it is) is what ignorant average Joe voter uses as a gauge (Trump of course would be included in this category ... and probably at his own peril)

The writer assumes that the Stock Market is going to be robust in 2020. This is a gamble, and well may be a losing bet. I would claim that the odds of the Stock Market not experiencing a significant drop in the next 3 years are long. Most analysts believe we are overdue.

There main issue is rising interest rates ( The 10yr hitting 2.9% was given as justification for the drop in February). Trump can get a short term economic increase on the basis of a racking up huge debt/deficits but, in a rising interest rate environment this will likely crush the markets prior to the end of Trumps first term.

 

Donnie Duetsch isn't just talking about the Stock Market or the economy. He was also talking about the Demos problems. That the Lame Stream Media downplays. That the Demos don't see themselves.

 

I agree but, reliance on the market to propel Trump to victory was one of the main thrusts of his arguments. I think this is a very dangerous assumption.

The Dems main problem is that they have no coherent message. Like Hillary they are doing little but attacking Trump and not giving anything to vote for.

The right should count their lucky stars on account of this because the GOP is in complete disarray - and I am not even including Trump in this comment.

Trump himself is a clown show and has become a puppet of the Establishment. Dig a little deeper than the never ending reality TV show and policies are pro Establishment x 2 ...same as Obama.

Will the voters notice ? If Trump has any chance in 2020 they better not as the electorate is becoming more anti-establishment (on both sides of the aisle) by the day.

 

Well ... given Hookers are clearly people who have strong feelings in relation to individual liberty .. sad commentary that they are not for the party that claims to be the party of individual liberty.

 

The voters will notice this. Oh and the Repubs have been in disarray for years. That's nothing new. But now the Demos are in disarry and doing that infighting.



http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-tax-hike-plan.528171/page-2#post-1068797846

 

Well ... I can't stand Pelosi but, in relation to the Tax Cuts she is right. She should have stuck to her guns "crumbs" but being a the scum bucket politician that she is ... backtracked.

The fact of the matter is that these Tax cuts benefit mostly the top 20% and corporations. The 1000 dollar bonuses were a one time publicity stunt and in no way serve as a substitute for wage increases (which is what is needed and would amount to far more).

The Tax cut was financed by debt. This is short term gain for long term losses. It is like when you get a increase to the limit on your credit card. Sure you have a little more to spend in the short term but, eventually you have to pay this money back.

Not only will the middle class have to pay back the tax cut's they received. They also have to pay for the tax breaks the corps received and for the military corporate welfare program.

We are looking at running a 1 Trillion dollar deficit this year. It's one thing to run these deficits after income drops from 2.7 Trillion to 2.1 Trillion (which is what happened in 2009 and took many years to recover) and to backstop the system after a housing bubble and near financial collapse. It is quite another to do this when revenues are doing great and the economy has recovered.

This is the ultimate in fiscal irresponsibility.

450 Billion... That is the current amount of interest we are paying on our 20 Trillion dollar debt - every year. Take the population at 330 million. Divide by 3 and call it 110 million households. Divide this number into the 450 billion and this is 4000 per household per year.

Subtract the lower end of the scale who pay little or no tax and you can call it more like 6000 or more per household per year.

Keep in mind that this is at an average interest rate on our debt at an all time low 2.25%. Without getting into detail (which I have done in other posts) ... the things we had to do to get the rate this low (such as buying shorter term notes which now have to be refloated on the market at higher interest rates) have caused serious problems. (the 10 yr hitting 2.9% alluded to earlier is getting very close to an inverted yield curve - where short term debt yields as much or higher than long term 30 year debt) This is a sign of serious demand problems.

in addition to the above debt that has to find a buyer. The Fed has accumulated 4 Trillion which it has to put into the markets - they are going to float something like 500 Billion this year.

Then of course we have to float our 1 Trillion dollar deficit. This is happening at a time when demand for our debt has weakened.

The moral of this story is that the ave interest rate on our debt is going higher. Unlike the Fed rate or mortgage rates .. the interest on our debt is a function of supply and demand.

The historical average is something like 5-6%. We are at the very low. Should the rate of interest on our debt increase by only 1.125%, the interest on our debt will rise by 225 Billion dollars per year. God forbid we get to 4.5% = 900 Billion/year in interest payments.

This is assuming our total debt is 20 Trillion. The reality is that at the end of Trumps fiscal term it will be closer to 25 Trillion.

4.5% on 25 Trillion is 1.125 Trillion dollars per year. Using the figures above ... this works out to 15,000 per household per year.

So .. if the ave voter had a choice (you can have 1000 per year now ... but down the road you will have to pay 15,000 per year) what do you think they would think of the Tax cut ?

 

Does that include you?

 

WHAT? Is that an MSNBC poll?

 

Trump Landslide?

1) It is WAY Too Early, to even talk about such a thing.

It is beyond LUDICROUS.

2) Trump (assuming that he is even still around to run in 2020) will, most likely, face a Primary challenge (from someone like Kasich or Romney).

Incumbent Presidents that get Primaried (within their own parties) seldom do well in the General Election (ask Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter).

3) IF Trump is renominated by the GOP, someone like Jeff Flake will run as a 3rd Party "True Conservative" Alternative.

Once again, it is WAY Too Early to even talk about the lay of the political landscape in 2020.

Trump Landslide?

 

This sounds like an argument for the other thread. Oh and Small Business that is completely behind the Tax reform.....says that this is only for the upper 20% is nothing more than bullshit.

 

LMAO.....now you have to hope on Jeff Flake.

But once again thanks for validating why the Demos aren't hearing anything about what their problems are.

 

With a nick name like "giftedone" why don't you run for president so you can fix things the way you think it should be done. You actually think anyone reads long-winded posts? That's the typical thinking of all narcissistic politicians.

Steve

 

in 2020 there will not be enough white cross droolers left to elect him plus progressives are energized, the growing demographic

 

In any event, it is WAY Too Early to talk about 2020.

 

Oh yeah Progressives are energized. That's what they said in Texas. Then Up Jumped reality.

What Progressives can't filter.....is the majority of the country doesn't want anything to do with their failed policies, nor their tantrums, nor them!

 

Tell that to the Leftist Donnie Duetsch who is sounding your alarm now. He is the one that sees the writing on the wall.

 

Fat chance that our OCD President will even complete his first term. . . . I would call MMC's ludicrous prediction strong evidence of Trump Derangement Syndrome, but that moniker has already been spoken for by confused conservative partisans.

Due to record Democratic early voting turnout in Texas, THE unshakeable red state, speculation is high that Democrats could feasibly regain control of the U.S. House due to growing distrust of Trump. . . . the Senate wouldn't be that much of a stretch.

As Democrats have been COMPLETELY alienated during this administration, it would be interesting to see Trump's reaction to a Democratic Congress; I doubt that he could tolerate the resistance, humiliation, and above all, his own political impotence.

 

If one owns a small business ... chances are you part of the 20%. I do not think you have studied this issue enough detail to be qualified to claim BS.

Regardless - whether for the rich, poor, or corporations - the undeniable fact is that these cuts will have to be paid for in the future - with interest - one way or the other and further - this administration - complete with Red control of both houses - is at the pinnacle of fiscal irresponsibility.