US Conservative Activist Brittany Pettibone Is Being Held in London’s Colnbrook Bypass Prison as Pol

America bans people whose views or behaviors it dislikes. How is this any different?

 

Too true. USA can refuse entry for no reason at all.

 

The right to freedom of speech.

The UK lacks it, yes or no?

 

Yep. So can most nations. Its fun to see the Pavlovian responses here when some 'white power' type gets turned around. Suddenly its all about 'the left', 'there is no free speech' and the standard declarations that British civilization is dead. All because a couple of right wing morons can't get into the UK.

I will bet you anything none of them said a thing when Philippines parliamentarian and activist Liza Maza was denied entry in 2015 or when Tarek Saab was denied entry in 2002. These people don't care about free speech, just the speech of people whose views they share.

 

Lolz

 

No, the UK does not lack it (hint: learn to express yourself clearly).

There is a clear and legislated right to free speech in the UK in the Human Rights Act. It is not absolute. No nation has absolute free speech.

The Act is very clear:

Now, I know how this game works. You are going to dodge, weave, dissemble and do everything you can to deny what I have just posted. You are going to set up special criteria, dig up examples you think prove that this legislation doesn't say what it does etc. You won't accept this because you can't. Like so many of the glassy eyed ideologues and trolls around here your belief beats facts. Go ahead, make me laugh.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom

Lolz, im just going to cite wikipedia.

You were once lions.

 

As expected. I posted the legislation. I didn't expect you to accept it. You won't because you can't.

Who is 'you'?

 

Yeah, that would be like Trump inciting people to violence at his rallies and offering to pay for their defense and then trying to blame Trump.
Why there's nothing wrong with inciting violence it's how to make America great again.

Ouch! Bit my tongue.

 

This is a travesty. This is the land of the magna carta ffs. What this woman believes is repugnant and vile. Jailing someone for their beliefs is tyrany. I am not sad for her, I am sad for the subjects of the crown.

 

So someone who peddles fake hate news isn't allowed into the UK?

Not even Fox News is carrying this story as far as I can see. Because it is not a story. It is false outrage.

 

Speakers Corner.

But freedom of speech is not absolute. Not in the UK. Not in the US.

And this isn't really about free speech. It is about border control. The US has barred many people from entering the country on political grounds.

 

The Tories are leftists now??

 

Warning! If you try and find any reference to this to confirm it be prepared to read the most vile sh*t on the net after child pornography. I can find no site not white supremacist run that has the story, not even FOX who would normally be on something like this like flies on honey. DailyStormTrooper sure but not even Breitbart.
England has always had a soft spot for loonies, there even is an actual Loony party. Even Maggie met with Screaming Lord Hatch. Psychopaths of the other hand not so much welcomed. If the story has any merit it's probably because they came to speak at a white supremacists rally slated for yesterday and the Brits have enough home grown psychopaths and have no need to let these two join the festivities.

 

The official refusal of entry and the couple's first hand story.

 

I don't know, nor care to know what their beliefs are. I do know that obviously there wasn't a crime or intent to commit a crime and that's why they had to release them elsewhere. But the very fact of their detainment is a poor sight on a Western Nation. As for America barring people in the past under previous regimes, if they posed no threat to us ideologically or otherwise I agree that was wrong too.

That doesn't mean when an American's human rights are violated, that I'm just going to suck it up and expect it. Those of us who learned of what happened are shocked and disappointed with the UK. We now know that the UK isn't as committed to freedom and Western values as we are.

 

The reason for Europe's demise is WW2. The hyper nationalism that came from Hitler forever scared the idea of nationalism to the European mind. They went the other way to border less globalism, which was worse for them.

 

Obviously she was being detained until they were able to rid themselves of her. They probably could not wait until she was out of their hair....and their country. These crazy morons spread their off the wall conspiracies and ideologies like a malignancy. Maybe countries in Europe are still remembering what happened the last time fear mongering and hate propaganda reigned supreme.

 

This is likely a very good thing for her, she will get a tremendous amount of coverage once she gets out, she will like be interviewed by Molyneux and a whole host of other youtubers which will have a great impact on her following.

Though I never heard of this Martin Sellner guy before now. Richard Spencer says they are an item? Is he part of Identity Europa?

 

Okay Lauren Southern says he is part of Generation Identity (never heard of them). She looks a little shook up over this and a bit worried. Then again she just got back from South Africa which is a heck of a lot scarier than a British detention center.

This may already have been posted, I didn't read the whole thread.

 

Not so. When an Iranian Cleric obtained a VISA to come to the USA, he was known not only by his online YouTube video but it even on Orlando TV that he was traveling to Orlando to tell Muslim men that homosexuals are "sentenced to death" and that doing so was the right thing to do to save them from continuing to sin.

One of the Muslims then bought firearms and ammo, having previously admitted to the FBI he wanted to shoot a lot of people - and then shot over 100 people murdering 49 at an LGTB nightclub. Not only was that Cleric not arrested, his VISA was not revoked nor ordered to leave. Simply, not only would be allowed to "foster a riot," it is allowed to openly advocate mass murder in the USA - at least if you are a foreigner and Muslim in the USA advocating mass murder of Americans.

 

It says the following:

1) Free speech exists in the UK.

2) But...

Which is honest in its way: post a lie, then in the second paragraph explain why it's a lie. Fair enough.

 

The bloke who was barred from entry has given his speech to Tommy Robinson, who plans to deliver it at the same location, in Speakers' Corner, next Sunday at 3pm. Whatever presence the Sellner lad would have had, Robinson will get 20 times as many, including me:




So that really worked out for them.

 

I'm only pointing out that it's absurd to talk about "rights" as if they're something any government has ever been held back by. Governments don't care about rights.

 

So if someone is going to give the exact same speech, it sort of undermines your argument that Britain does not permit free speech, doesn't it?