At least four dead in Florida university bridge collapse

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    You "suppose" a lot of crap that fits your pure hatred for Obama.
    We get it!
     
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    Americans can put a man on the moon. But take care of their citizens, supply jobs, furnish a high standard and quality of living, create a healthy environment for both mind and soul, or build bridges ...... naw.
     
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    You sure throw a lot of accusations yet where is the evidence to back it up?
     
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    Me ******** in the woods is a good reason for them to spew hate about Oblama..
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Clearly I have more experience than you who have none.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That doesn't make any sense, grammatically speaking.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well I think you understood what I said, but if you want to diagram the sentence and explain my grammatical failure I would appreciate the lesson.
     
  8. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You asked now, right? So you're not going to get crazy and make a big thing about it when I tell you that you cannot "have more experience" than someone who has "none".
     
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    No, the reason he did it, was to increase diversity. It's what Dems are known for here in the states. Quotas and making non-Whites look good is more important than safety.
     
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    Any experience is more than someone who has no experience. Try sgain!
     
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  11. Peter Dow

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    I don't "hate" Obama and I supposed nothing about Obama that is not a reported fact.

    I can quote this information from FIU

    FIU NEWS - Pedestrian Bridge FAQ

    What is the process for selecting a construction firm?
    Step 1- A request for qualification is announced according to state statutes and Board of Governors regulations.
    Step 2- Interested firms submit their qualifications (such as licenses) and work history of similar projects.
    Step 3 – From the submissions, a committee of stakeholders creates a short list of 3-5 firms.
    Step 4 – Committee interviews firms.
    Step 5 – Firms are ranked, and a recommendation is made to the president.
    Note: In this case, MCM and Figg were selected as a team.

    Key stakeholders in this project?
    • Federal Highway Administration
    • Florida Department of Transportation Local Agency Program
    • FIU
    • City of Sweetwater

    So we can deduce that the FIU as "stakeholders in the project" had people on the committee of stakeholders which recommended firms to the president.

    I would suppose that Atorod Azizinamini as the FIU director of Accelerated Bridge Construction University Transportation Center was on that committee or had someone representing his recommendations on that committee and that his recommendation was made to the president who followed it.

    Do you have any evidence that suggests my supposition is wrong?

     
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    I am only really accusing people in this case of one crime - involuntary manslaughter. I have other accusations to make in other cases which are not really of more than passing interest in this thread.

    There is a lot of evidence implicating those I have accused in this FIU NEWS story which I keep quoting but people such as yourself keep ignoring.

    I have more evidence against other people coming up ...
     
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    There is nothing "clear" about your experience to readers of this thread, yet.
     
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    Sorry. You are wrong (with regards to 'comparatives') but I see that you are getting upset over it sgain, so let it be before you begin misspelling whole sentences. LOL.

    Dick: "I have 2 dollars."
    Jane: "I have more."
    CORRECT.

    Dick: "I have no money."
    Jane: "I have more."
    INCORRECT
     
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    The Obama Administration

    Atorod Azizinami, FIU Chair of the Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of the Accelerated Bridge Construction University Transportation Center

    Anthony Foxx, Obama's Secretary of Transport Engineering

    Crime of which Atorod Azizinami and Anthony Foxx are accused - involuntary manslaughter

    Summary of evidence -

    * Atorod Azizinami professed his so-called "accelerated" (actually fraudulent, rushed, botched, risky, culpably negligent and prone to collapse) bridge construction method, misleading others into following his dangerous and ultimately deadly unprofessional engineering malpractice.

    * See FIU NEWS, 03/10/2018 - First-of-its-kind pedestrian bridge “swings” into place

    “This project is an outstanding example of the ABC method,” said chair of FIU’s Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of FIU’s ABC-UTC Atorod Azizinamini, who is one of the world’s leading experts on Accelerated Bridge Construction. “Building the major element of the bridge – its main span superstructure – outside of the traveled way and away from busy Eighth Street is a milestone.”

    * Anthony Foxx as Obama's US Secretary of Transport directed the US government to fund Atorod Azizinami

    * See photograph and other reports of Foxx with Azizinami at a White House event announcing Azizinami was to be appointed a "Champion of Change in Transportation"

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    * US Department of Transport - 2015 Champions of Change in Transportation

    * See the reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged but Azizinami-approved project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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    Florida International University Presidents and Professor of Bridge Engineering

    Mark B. Rosenberg, FIU President

    Kenneth Jessell, FIU Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

    Atorod Azizinamini - Chair of FIU’s Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of FIU’s Accelerated Bridge Construction University Transportation Center

    Crime of which Mark B. Rosenberg, Kenneth Jessell and Atorod Azizinamini are accused - involuntary manslaughter

    Summary of evidence -

    * Mark B. Rosenberg as FIU president allowed the FIU to employ Atorod Azizinami and to award the contract for the design and construction of the pedestrial bridge to MCM + FIGG.

    * Kenneth Jessell as FIU Vice President and Chief Financial Officer supported Mark B. Rosenberg as president allowing the FIU to employ Atorod Azizinami and to award the contract for the design and construction of the pedestrial bridge to MCM + FIGG.

    * Atorod Azizinami professed his so-called "accelerated" (actually fraudulent, rushed, botched, risky, culpably negligent and prone to collapse) bridge construction method, misleading others into following his dangerous and ultimately deadly unprofessional engineering malpractice.

    * See FIU NEWS, 03/10/2018 - First-of-its-kind pedestrian bridge “swings” into place

    “FIU is about building bridges and student safety. This project accomplishes our mission beautifully,” said FIU President Mark B. Rosenberg. “We are filled with pride and satisfaction at seeing this engineering feat come to life and connect our campus to the surrounding community where thousands of our students live.”

    “This bridge is the result of great support from our congressional delegation and the U.S. Department of Transportation,” said FIU Senior Vice President and CFO Kenneth Jessell. “This bridge has already been the catalyst for significant economic development in the City of Sweetwater. FIU and our surrounding community will benefit from this project for generations to come.”

    “This project is an outstanding example of the ABC method,” said chair of FIU’s Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of FIU’s ABC-UTC Atorod Azizinamini, who is one of the world’s leading experts on Accelerated Bridge Construction. “Building the major element of the bridge – its main span superstructure – outside of the traveled way and away from busy Eighth Street is a milestone.”

    * See the reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged but Azizinami-approved project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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    Company Presidents

    Linda Figg, President and Chief Executive Officer of Figg Engineering Group

    Jorge Munilla, President of MCM

    Crime of which Linda Figg and Jorge Munilla are accused - involuntary manslaughter

    Summary of evidence -

    * Linda Figg allowed Figg Engineering Group employees to present and to follow a fatally flawed engineering design and construction methodology for the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project.

    * Jorge Munilla allowed MCM employees to follow FIGG's fatally flawed engineering design and construction methodology for the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project.

    * See FIU - MCM Design-Build Proposal - MCM_FIGG_Proposal_for_FIU_Pedestrian_Bridge_9-30-2015.pdf

    * See reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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    Pedestrian Bridge Project Management

    Dwight Dempsey, FIGG, Project Design Manager

    Rodrigo Isaza, MCM, Project Construction Manager

    Eddie Martinez, MCM, Project Safety Manager

    Crime of which Dwight Dempsey, Rodrigo Isaza and Eddie Martinez are accused - involuntary manslaughter

    Summary of evidence -

    * Dwight Dempsey, Rodrigo Isaza and Eddie Martinez as project managers allowed project employees to follow FIGG's fatally flawed engineering design and construction methodology for the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project.

    * See FIU - MCM Design-Build Proposal - MCM_FIGG_Proposal_for_FIU_Pedestrian_Bridge_9-30-2015.pdf

    * The fact that road traffic was allowed by project managers to pass under the bridge while it was under construction, before it had been completed, tested and certified as safe.

    * See reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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    National Society of Professional Engineers

    W. Denny Pate, FIGG, Lead Technical Designer and Engineer of Record

    Robert Murphy, MCM, Project Director

    Dwight Dempsey, FIGG, Project Design Manager

    Kenneth Heil, FIGG, Design Quality Manager

    Manuel Feliciano, FIGG, Bridge Engineer

    Kristian Navarro, MCM, Project Engineer

    Crime of which W. Denny Pate, Dwight Dempsey, Kenneth Heil, Manuel Feliciano and Kristian Navarro are accused - involuntary manslaughter.

    Summary of evidence -

    * W. Denny Pate authored as the Engineer of Record an incompetent and fatally flawed engineering design and construction methodology for the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project.

    * Robert Murphy, Dwight Dempsey, Kenneth Heil, Manuel Feliciano and Kristian Navarro, as professional engineers should not have done, followed W. Denny Pate's unprofessional, incompetent and fatally flawed engineering design and construction methodology for the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project, failing to do their duty as professional engineers to do all within their power to ensure that the project followed the standards and practices of National Society of Professional Engineers.

    * The fact that these engineers made no alarming report about this mismanaged project to the National Society of Professional Engineers.

    * See FIU - MCM Design-Build Proposal - MCM_FIGG_Proposal_for_FIU_Pedestrian_Bridge_9-30-2015.pdf

    * See reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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    From The Associated Press 17 March 2018:
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    As crews removed bodies from beneath a collapsed pedestrian bridge Saturday, a victim's uncle raged against what he called the "complete incompetence" and "colossal failure" that allowed people to drive beneath the unfinished concrete span.

    "Why they had to build this monstrosity in the first place to get children across the street?" said an anguished Joe Smitha, whose niece, Alexa Duran, was crushed in Thursday's collapse at Florida International University. "Then they decided to stress test this bridge while traffic was running underneath it?"
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    US Army Corps of Engineers

    Eddie Martinez, MCM, Project Safety Manager

    Kristian Navarro, MCM, Project Engineer

    Carlos Hernandez, MCM, Quality Control Manager

    Crime of which Eddie Martinez, Kristian Navarro and Carlos Hernandez are accused - involuntary manslaughter.

    Summary of evidence -

    * Eddie Martinez, Kristian Navarro and Carlos Hernandez followed the fatally flawed engineering design and construction methodology for the FIU Pedestrian Bridge Project and failed to do their duty to report to the Army Corps of Engineers that this mismanaged civilian project was a danger to the people that should be reported by the US Army Corps of Engineers through the chain of command to the President of the United States of America.

    * The fact that these army engineers made no alarming report about this mismanaged civilian project to the Army Corps of Engineers.

    * See FIU - MCM Design-Build Proposal - MCM_FIGG_Proposal_for_FIU_Pedestrian_Bridge_9-30-2015.pdf

    * See reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged civilian project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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    Recommendation to the authorities
    The executive recommendation to the authorities is that the above mentioned suspects who have been accused of a crime should be prosecuted.
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    Mayor Orlando Lopez

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    State and Federal Authorities
    Governor of Florida, Rick Scott
    President of the United States, Donald Trump
     
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    Yeah, it was the president of the UNIVERSITY, not the country!!!!!
    DUH!!!!!!!
    Your hatred of Obama is pathetic!
     
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    I obviously identified and accused the President of the University, not the "country" in my post #66 which I need to re-post because I misspelled Azizinamini's name the first time.

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    Florida International University Presidents and Professor of Bridge Engineering

    Mark B. Rosenberg, FIU President

    Kenneth Jessell, FIU Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

    Atorod Azizinamini - Chair of FIU’s Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of FIU’s Accelerated Bridge Construction University Transportation Center

    Crime of which Mark B. Rosenberg, Kenneth Jessell and Atorod Azizinamini are accused - involuntary manslaughter

    Summary of evidence -

    * Mark B. Rosenberg as FIU president allowed the FIU to employ Atorod Azizinami and to award the contract for the design and construction of the pedestrial bridge to MCM + FIGG.

    * Kenneth Jessell as FIU Vice President and Chief Financial Officer supported Mark B. Rosenberg as president allowing the FIU to employ Atorod Azizinami and to award the contract for the design and construction of the pedestrial bridge to MCM + FIGG.

    * Atorod Azizinami professed his so-called "accelerated" (actually fraudulent, rushed, botched, risky, culpably negligent and prone to collapse) bridge construction method, misleading others into following his dangerous and ultimately deadly unprofessional engineering malpractice.

    * See FIU NEWS, 03/10/2018 - First-of-its-kind pedestrian bridge “swings” into place

    “FIU is about building bridges and student safety. This project accomplishes our mission beautifully,” said FIU President Mark B. Rosenberg. “We are filled with pride and satisfaction at seeing this engineering feat come to life and connect our campus to the surrounding community where thousands of our students live.”

    “This bridge is the result of great support from our congressional delegation and the U.S. Department of Transportation,” said FIU Senior Vice President and CFO Kenneth Jessell. “This bridge has already been the catalyst for significant economic development in the City of Sweetwater. FIU and our surrounding community will benefit from this project for generations to come.”

    “This project is an outstanding example of the ABC method,” said chair of FIU’s Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of FIU’s ABC-UTC Atorod Azizinamini, who is one of the world’s leading experts on Accelerated Bridge Construction. “Building the major element of the bridge – its main span superstructure – outside of the traveled way and away from busy Eighth Street is a milestone.”

    * See the reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged but Azizinami-approved project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse

    I don't "hate" Obama. Scots quite like Obama and he was warmly received when he visited in May 2017.

    There are quite different judgements which intelligent people can make about individuals or their particular actions -
    1. "like or dislike"?
    2. "love or hate"?
    3. "competent or incompetent"?
    4. "legal or illegal"?
    It is very stupid to boil everything down to "love or hate"? I'm not that stupid.

    I've not charged Obama with a crime, just his Secretary of Transport, Anthony Foxx, (whom I don't "hate" either, don't even know Foxx well enough to have any strong feelings about him), in my post #65 which I need to re-post here because I misspelled Azizinamini's name the first time.

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    The Obama Administration

    Atorod Azizinamini, FIU Chair of the Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of the Accelerated Bridge Construction University Transportation Center

    Anthony Foxx, Obama's Secretary of Transport

    Crime of which Atorod Azizinamini and Anthony Foxx are accused - involuntary manslaughter

    Summary of evidence -

    * Atorod Azizinamini professed his so-called "accelerated" (actually fraudulent, rushed, botched, risky, culpably negligent and prone to collapse) bridge construction method, misleading others into following his dangerous and ultimately deadly unprofessional engineering malpractice.

    * See FIU NEWS, 03/10/2018 - First-of-its-kind pedestrian bridge “swings” into place

    “This project is an outstanding example of the ABC method,” said chair of FIU’s Civil & Environmental Engineering Department and director of FIU’s ABC-UTC Atorod Azizinamini, who is one of the world’s leading experts on Accelerated Bridge Construction. “Building the major element of the bridge – its main span superstructure – outside of the traveled way and away from busy Eighth Street is a milestone.”

    * Anthony Foxx as Obama's US Secretary of Transport directed the US government to fund Atorod Azizinamini

    * See photograph and other reports of Foxx with Azizinamini at a White House event announcing Azizinamini was to be appointed a "Champion of Change in Transportation"

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    * US Department of Transport - 2015 Champions of Change in Transportation

    * See the reports of the collapse of the weak and uncertified truss mainspan of the bridge on March 15, 2018, crushing vehicles and people which the mismanaged but Azizinamini-approved project had allowed to pass dangerously underneath.

    * Wikipedia - Florida International University pedestrian bridge collapse
     
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