21% Favor Scrapping 2nd Amendment, What's Wrong with the Other 79%?

Huh, minorities with guns kill far more people than white males do. Another lie on the left.

 

"Let us not make it a blank paper by construction. . . If it is, then we have no Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson

"On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." - Thomas Jefferson

 

The Second Amendment can't be repealed by the popular vote. Takes 3/4 of the State legislatures to approve any amendment of the Constitution. That means 13 states can block it.

 

Then we will tell you again. It's settled law. In 2008, the SCOTUS in Heller vs. DC wrote :

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

 

Nope, it's the opinion of the SCOTUS.

 

Works well in Mexico.

 

Please point out any kind of scientific (or pseudoscientific) poll that shows this.

 

The trend exists only in your mind.
Lucky to live within a 30-minute drive to Valley Forge National Park, I get to go there often. Many think the park is at its most beautiful in the spring, with the abundant native white dogwoods and rhododendrons in full display. That is a breathtaking view.

But it isn't the optimal time to visit. No, the best time is the dead of winter, with the trees bare. Only then can you see the expanse of the park. In fact, at sunset, after a snowfall, the place is hauntingly beautiful. In winter, you can also easily see why Washington camped there. He had a great line of sight, especially to the east. But the holiness of this place is what jumps out in winter, because that is when the suffering and the sacrifice and the death occurred there. That suffering gave us, the Americans of the 21st century, what we now have, in material well-being and in freedoms.



One of those "freedoms" was a guarantee to protect the right not only to bear arms, but to raise those arms against an established government that no longer gives a damn about its citizens. We were given protection of that right not to hunt deer or shoot skeet. Most of those who camped – and died – at Valley Forge in the winter of 1777-1778 came there with their own guns, not government issues. If one were to tell those men that we, their descendants, were marching now to give up our arms – voluntarily – I don't know if their reaction would be incredulity or retching disgust. Certainly, they would wonder what they were doing camped out on those frozen hills while their enemy sat in warmth and comfort in Philadelphia.

So think, America – far and away most of the world lacks any sort of governmental respect for this right. Never had it, actually. And yet many of you would give it away for supposed safety. Walk through Valley Forge some winter day and ask yourself how the people who died there of exposure and communicable disease might feel about that. I would be both ashamed and afraid to ask them.

 

There is a relatively easy fix that might please most folks.... "the right of the people to bear arms shall be determined by the individual states."

 

That access exists for those prone to do evil regardless of the laws. There is no silver bullet that will keep criminals from performing evil acts. Criminality existed before guns. Guns, therefore, do not make people criminals. Poverty does not cause crime or there would be no white collar crime and every poor person would be a criminal. At the root of all crime is the desire for what someone else has.

 

Scrap the 2nd amendment?? Ask the people how not having guns worked out for them in Russia, Germany, and China.

 

I suspect more than 21% don't know what the 2nd Amendment is.

 

Guns have been around since the 7th century. A much higher percentage of people used to carry firearms than do now. There is no "gun culture."

 

Your definition of "trolling" does not match that of the board rules.
So sorry.

 

These weapons are in common use for traditionally lawful purposes and thus qualify as 'bearable arms'.
The 2nd protects the right of the individual to own and use all bearable arms.
How is a ban on the AR15 constitutional?

Any firearm can be used for 'hunting people'.

Funny - we keep hearing from the anti-gun left that gun-related crime is SO bad we need to further restrict the right of the law abiding to keep and bear arms -- that being the case, how are people like you not responsible for making people feel like they need a gun to be safe?

 

Said culture has existed here for 500 years.
Suddenly, there's a problem?

 

Let us know when this amendment goes through.

 

21% is the new 100%.

 

That is absolutely correct.

And laws are not known for overriding cultural dynamics.

Marijuana is a good comparison here. Its a part of our culture as well, roughly as culturally ingrained as firearms. Yet the war on weed is most commonly viewed by those who advocate for more gun laws as a failure.

What is it about the gun culture that leads folks to believe it can be drowned with laws while precisely the same dynamic is understood to be a waste with the marijuana culture?

 

Not really. Guns were invented in the 14th century (1360s). Not sure there is any evidence on the percentage of people carrying firearms. There is no gun culture. There are gun hobbyists.

 

The 2nd amendment was not over a unit in states. Did you forget the other law on this, the one from 1792? The Dick act was passed to overturn the other law, the militia act.

We read into the 2nd amendment the words shall not be infringed to mean just that.
The day is coming when no state or local area can keep laws infringing on our rights. This is the backlash due to what Democrats want done today. They will lose.

 

Well, I don't see how to edit my post so I'll do it this way.

The sentence above should read, "By the way,.....possibly think that reducing guns would NOT reduce homicides.

 

We can only hope that DP politicians ignore that obviously Fake New Fake Poll and run hard to Repeal The Second Amendment!
I am sure American voters will reward them.

 

No gun culture? I travel the world, and I've never seen billboards advertising military-style rifles in any country other than the United States. I have never been in any other country where people organize to promote the sale of weapons that are designed to kill human beings.

Have you ever watched the NRA advertising videos? They paint anyone who wants to stop the killing as violent terrorists. Here's a link to one of them. I don't see how anyone with an IQ above room temperature could fall for it, but many who adhere to the gun culture apparently do.

 

Any poll published by a respected polling agency that you disagree with is obviously fake news, right? Genuine news is only news that conforms to your prejudices.