better more realistic explanation is Obama was played as a gullible naïve fool we all know he is or it was another if you like your plan you can keep your plan lie
Hey Everyone lets play the blame game and act like this has any meaning at all, you guys are really changing the world with your forum rants. I know i sound like a dick but this is american ignorance at its best. pissing and moaning about things presidents have been doing for millenniums. Do you not realize that in the entirety of american history we have almost never had a generational peace time. We are always somewhere ****ing with someone for something. I 100% understand peoples desires to get away from that perpetual bullshit, but sry if you think posting ill informed opinions on a forum on a message board that no one of significance cares about is helping america. ITS NOT.
****in' retarded neocons, Bush, Cheney, Obama, Clinton, Kerry, McCain,..........the whole discusting lot of them
I live in the real world, Earth Prime, Earth One, however you want to call it, not Leftist Conspiracy World-326. ISIS arose when we left Iraq, not when we invaded. And Afghanistan? You are even more out of it than usual.
Maybe you should learn a little about the history of ISIS before making a fool of yourself. http://www.history.co.uk/article/the-history-of-isis
Bush II had a reason. Maybe it wasn't a good reason, but he thought it was. I'm not smart enough to second-guess him. Neither are you.
I'm perfectly willing to defend my position, and after a quick look at that link of yours, it's clear that you are unable to do the same. If you were smart, you would drop this and go start a dozen or so "IMPEACH DRUMPF!" threads as a distraction.
Yes actually I am. It was pretty obvious from his rush to invade that it was a fraud. There was no, repeat no immediate threat to the US so it was clear that his rush was to be at war before the evidence that there was no nuclear program and no weapons of mass destruction could become clear from the inspections by the UN.
Many unintelligent loudmouths make repeatedly absurd silly statements as you have so aptly demonstrated.
And what would be those "political reasons" be? He will be as criticized as he is congratulated. (No matter what he does, that is the case.) Some countries will support his decision, some will not. Some Americans will support his decision, some will not. And some will just b*tch incessantly no matter what he does anyhow.
I don't have to defend it, it's the non kook, non conspiracy position. You're in an, as you would say, an alternate reality.
While Bush did indeed cause huge damage... it's ironic how liberal-celebrated, Obama praised and supported "Arab spring" becomes Bush's fault the moment it turns into what it was widely expected to become tyrannies, Islamic dictatorships and civil wars. And of course would not have to bomb Syria today if Putin did not promise Obama to rid Syria of all chemical weapons.... it was Bush's fault that Obama believed Putin, wasn't it?
Bzzzt! Try again. I didn't say Iraq was a threat to America, or that Bush II had a good reason to take out Saddam. I don't even think we should have. I simply believe that he thought he was doing the right thing, and I think I understand it. Try to understand that his dad encouraged Iraqis to revolt against Saddam. Then, understand that we stood by and did nothing while those revolutionaries were massacred. I think he felt he owed them a debt.
The picture is starting to become clear now. Trump has FD any alliance with Russia, playing the "Art of the Deal" against all logic, giving the FU to his own support base of "Make America Great Again", to prostrate himself before his Globalist masters.
Maybe you should impeach him then? Republicans in congress will not approve even the simplest things Trump asks for. Because they are the enemy within or just plain disgraceful cowards.
they gave him his massive tax cut for the rich and spending increase, that will give us $1 trillion deficits