The verdict is in; Trump is guilty ... or out to lunch

What was the collaboration? Details? Specifics. It will help your case.

 

The Senate Committee isn't much better than the House...juts not as blatant

 

Now it's contact with the Russians...

What happened with collusion with the Russians ???

That's right...collusion isn't a federal crime.

I'm more concerned with the $10 million dollars the DNC and Hillary paid the Russians for a fake dossier and why hasn't the DNC servers been subpoenaed yet by the FBI so we can see the hear say evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC servers.

 

Taxi medallions are part of the initial investigation

MICHAEL COHEN REPORTEDLY RENTED IVANKA's PARK AVENUE APARTMENT TO DISREPUTABLE RUSSIAN-AMERICAN TAXI MAGNATE

The red flags around the president's lawyer keep rising.

Tom Boggioni reports:

According to a report on Page Six, Trump family fixer Michael Cohen once sublet out one of White House advisers Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner’s swanky Park Avenue apartments to a Russian-born taxi magnate.

According to the report, Evgeny “Gene” Freidman was Cohen’s partner in operating 32 taxi medallions that Cohen owned which have become a subject of interest to FBI investigators.

The report notes that Friedman was in need of a place to stay in 2015 after he was ordered to stay away from his estranged wife after he allegedly assaulted her. One month later she sued for divorce.

According to the report, his wife remained in their Upper East Side townhouse while Friedman moved with his dog into Trump Park Avenue — the same building where Cohen lived with his family. Cohen arranged for Friedman to rent one of the multiple apartments owned by Ivanka and Jared.

“When Gene was thrown out of his townhouse, Cohen got him one of Jared and Ivanka’s apartments,” a source told Page Six, adding that Freidman was able to move back to his own home after the divorce was finalized and his wife moved on.

According to the report, Cohen and Friedman had a falling out when allegations emerged that Freidman — his business damaged by Uber and Lyft — stopped paying taxes on the medallions.

Appearing on CNN on Sunday morning, Cohen nemesis Micheal Avenatti — the attorney for Stormy Daniels — accused Cohen of hanging about with friends with Russian ties on Friday as the FBI is investigating Trump’s personal lawyer for a multitude of reasons.

- Alternet

 

We just stopped believing in witches when we were children, sort of like Santa Claus...

 

Aw, come one, now that was funny. We all needed a good laugh.

 

Do you have any poll that indicates that or did you just make that up? On the other hand there is this.

In a poll of 1,000 registered voters by USA Today 58% majority say they have a lot or some trust in Mueller's investigation, while a 57% majority say they have little or no trust in Trump's denials. Three of four of those surveyed, 75%, say they take the charges filed by Mueller seriously; most of them say they take them "very" seriously. Just one in five, 20%, dismiss them as not particularly serious.

The latter are diehard Trumpians like yourself. If the facts are unpleasant, pretend the facts don't exist.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...re-than-trump-usa-today-poll-shows/371345002/

Very true. Trump became our President, regrettably. But why is it true? Because Trump's base simply doesn't care that the President they voted for is amoral. That is still true today. Trump had affairs with a porn star and a Playboy bunny while married to the First Lady. Trumpians simply don't care. Trump spoke at a rally in Michigan instead of attending the White House Correspondents' Dinner. He wanted to be with his own kind. They cheered him wildly. They admire him.

JakeJ, you probably cheered right along with them. You see nothing wrong.

Mueller is closing in on Trump, and you don't care one bit that he and his campaign team is guilty of collaborating with a hostile foreign power. Review the OP you completely ignored.

 

Hostile power or not and under investigation or not there is still nothing making it legal to STEAL confidential information from someone and/or to use that information against them.

 

As for Trump supporters, that says it all. Like the man said, you people simply don't care. If Trump collaborated with the Russians -- there is a pile of evidence we do know that indicates that -- so what, right?

And that is not counting what Mueller has. What the public knows is roughly 1/100th of Mueller has. That's what keeps Trump up at night ... literally.

This is why his base stays with him. If it is bad, just ignore it. Trump's fans stopped believing in witches long ago.

 

Whatever you are doing, keep it up. If you ever address the issues in a thread, if you ever not try to change the subject, if you ever stop bringing up Hillary or the DNC on a Trump thread, I will probably have a heart attack.

Seriously, you're funny.

 

Even if they met with the Russian lawyer and gave them information on Hillary, there is no proof they used it. I don't remember any new information that came out of that pre election that people didn't know before. There is no law against them to hear her out and hear what she had to say. Hell if there was any collusion to turn the election it was done by Bill Clinton, the Attorney General and the FBI to keep Hillary in the running for President. We do know that happened. But the Left doesn't want to talk about that.

 

Funnier than Michelle Wolf ?

Then why wasn't I asked to perform at the fake news White House Correspondent Dinner ???

 

The verdict is in and you still have no evidence of any sort of illegal collusion. But nice bit of hysteria.

 

First of all, that hardly matters. Goldstone made it clear to Junior that they were meeting with agents of the Russian government. Collaborating with agents of a hostile foreign power is illegal.

Secondly, it is clear the campaign made use by proxy of emails extremely damaging to the Clinton campaign. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

At least five times Trump praised WikiLeaks for providing the emails produced by Russian agents. "It's been amazing what's coming out on WikiLeaks."

Trump is either guilty of a conspiracy with a foreign power or he is guilty of being extremely stupid. Take you pick.

Oh, yes, there is. You are being very naive or you are desperate. Even if there were no law against it, the meeting between Trump's son, son-in-law, and campaign manager with Russian agents is political suicide. That will be proven in the November elections. It already has been proven in elections so far. Deeply red districts are going blue.

That said, Mueller will find some suitable charge.

 

Now,if you presented the above at a corporate meeting, you would have gotten a "h-u-g-e" pay raise---nicely done-----accurate & to the point with a bonus for easy to follow color coding----KUDOS----

 

The fact that you think Russia would want people like me running the country is telling to how little you know.

 

Not really. Trump's supporters voted for chaos in Washington. That is what Putin wanted. That is what Putin is getting. As far as Putin is concerned, people like you, Trump's people, are doing a great job.

 

yep ...is soon 2078?

 

Oh, there is evidence alright. You just chose to ignore it, much like all Trumpians.

Those familiar with the meeting knew that Veselnitskaya and the three other Russians in the room with Trump's high ranking campaign officials were agents of the Kremlin. How did we know? Junior's friend, the one who arranged the meeting, one Rob Goldstone, told Junior they were operatives of the Russian government.

Goldstone's email said, "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

They met at Trump's home, Trump Tower. Trump played a key role in the ludicrous attempt to provide cover for the meeting. His son, son-in-law, and campaign manager attended the meeting with the four Russian agents. Trump's people are meeting with operatives of a hostile foreign power at his home.

Trump promised during a June 7, 2016, campaign appearance that he would soon give a speech outlining “all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons.” Trump’s remarks took place just hours after the Trump Tower meeting.

You can't explain that evidence, so you just ignore it.

You also ignore the rather obvious fact that -- Nunes's extremely biased report notwithstanding -- the Senate committees and Mueller have not yet submitted their report. You can't say there is no evidence when you have no idea what you are talking about.

In the meantime, Trump insists on incriminating himself with his big mouth.

 

Sorry not evidence of anything other than your dislike of trump clouding your judgement.

 

Someone in the Trump White House leaked forty some questions to the New York Times. The best guess is it is from someone who does not want Trump to be interviewed by Mueller, assuming Trump has a choice in the matter. There are some very intriguing questions.

What did you know about phone calls that Mr. Flynn made with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, in late December 2016? Of course, Trump know all about it. Flynn made a deal with Kislyak that obligated the future Trump administration. To assert Trump knew nothing about it, Flynn did this on his own, is absurd.

Regarding the decision to fire Mr. Comey: When was it made? Why? Who played a role? Trump told a national television audience that the reason he fired Comey was the Russian probe. “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.” That statement was made to Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, in the Oval Office, along with the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey I. Kislyak.

Did you discuss whether Mr. Sessions would protect you, and reference past attorneys general? Trump was under the impression the A.G. was his personal attorney. He has never forgiven Sessions for doing the honorable thing. Sessions was intimately involved in Trump's campaign and he had contact with the Russian ambassador at least twice, once in his office. So, Sessions recused himself from the Russian probe.

What discussions did you have regarding terminating the special counsel, and what did you do when that consideration was reported in January 2018? The Times reported that, in June 2017, Mr. Trump ordered Mr. McGahn to fire Mr. Mueller. Mr. McGahn refused. Though Mr. Trump’s own advisers informed Mr. Mueller about that effort, Mr. Trump denied it: “Fake news,” he said. “A typical New York Times fake story.”

Those questions barely scratch the surface but they give some idea of the scope of Mueller's investigation. Trump has some answering to do.

October surprise? If the Democrats win the House, maybe even the Senate in November, impeachment anyone? Why vote Republican if the standard bearer performed criminal acts and caused a Constitutional crisis?

 

More airy assumptions based on wanna believe not fact.

 

A pile typically implies something that is a lot of something. Your pile is void of anything resembling evidence Trump did anything except whats in the vivid imaginations of the sore losers who still cant believe they lost. But in an effort to help you, please cite your number one piece of factual evidence that you believe shows trump is guilty of this accusation. Your #1 only please.