Can atheism coexist with religion?

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Glad that I could be of assistance in enlightening you on something.
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's because Americans have been subjected to 18 years of politicization on the subject starting with Al Gore.

    The hacking of the CRU and taking emails out of context caused a stir, especially among conspiracy theorists, thus giving traction to climate change deniers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

    For most non-scientific people, the waters have been so muddied they don't know what to believe.
     
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  3. it's just me

    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    No, you just confirmed what I already knew.

    I thought you were ignoring me.
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you didn't. That's why it's a translation of the hilarious post quoted below. I was just making it funnier. BTW, Padre, that still doesn't excuse you bearing false witness against other members of this forum nor whining with statements about being "fodder for every hater on the planet with an axe to grind". If you want to talk about persecution, go talk to some Jews. They can tell you a story or two.

     
  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow. While I agree that Mamooth is so emotional that he could easily be considered a fanatic, for anyone, much less a religious leader, to spread such hatred is telling. Especially after you just posted this:
    As evidenced above, obviously, at least among the fanatics and haters, atheism and theism can't coexist. They'll kill each other. Among normal, sane people, yes, they can coexist.
     
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  6. eathen lord

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    Replying only to what you said: Religion is often a menace to freedom, it is ironic that religious people often clam religious freedom when attempting to take away the freedom of others, for example LGBT and women. So my answer must be no, religion is not normally compatible with atheism nor most concepts of freedom, if religious folk keep their beliefs from interfering negatively with others then most people won't have a problem with them.
     
  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How to you plan to do that? Kill them like Stalin and Mao?
     
  8. eathen lord

    eathen lord Active Member

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    Do what exactly?
     
  9. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Nope, just commenting on your endless failures to substantiate your bogus allegations rather than wasting any time on them.
     
  10. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Make "religious folk" keep their beliefs from interfering with others:
    BTW, do you consider militant atheists as "religious folk" or do you give them a pass?

    Example of militant atheists:
     
  11. Nerd of Liberty

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    In my view, atheism is just as much a belief as Christianity. In the U.S, freedom of religion is a constitutionally protected right under the First Amendment. Therefore, it goes without saying that the First Amendment also grants the right to freedom from religion.
     
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  12. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed on all points. Unfortunately we have factions on both sides seeking to jam their beliefs down the throats of others.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Are you that uninformed that you don't know what I am talking about? Go sit at the kiddie table then.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Which is an infringement of freedom of religion. Nope, won't fly.
     
  15. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What church are you a priest for again?
     
  16. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Incorrect. The Freedom to choose a religion or no religion is covered by the First Amendment.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freedom-of-religion
    freedom of religion definition

    The right to choose a religion (or no religion) without interference by the government. Freedom of religion is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution. ( See separation of church and state
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    How about the Church of None Of Your Business?
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion. Using your analogy freedom of speech would be freedom from speech, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what you think.
     
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    You’re Playing the semantics game!
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    No, this is the English language game, because words do mean things. Max is playing the Sophistry game (no offense to the Sophists).
     
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  21. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only defrocked priests belongs to that church.
     
  22. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong again, my child. Freedom of speech allows people to speak, but they are not required to speak just like Freedom of religion allows the people the freedom to choose a religion or no religion at all.

    BTW, I'm an ordained minister, but am thinking of changing my title from Pastor to Priest. Father Max has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some friendly advice, you're not the first whupped troll that has tearfully declared jihad against me. It doesn't end well for those who choose that route. They usually self-destruct. Often amusingly, but being how I ooze the milk of human kindness, I'm willing to forgo that entertainment. Avoid the sanity death spiral. Choose a path of rationality instead.

    I would suggest some self-examination. You obviously have a deep unsatisfied emotional need to believe that atheists are angry and violent, a need so intense that it's driven you to habitual trolling and dishonesty. What drives that emotional need? Once we figure that out, we can try to fix it.

    Remember, we're here for you.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    With logic like yours how could you ever make it through seminary?

    Read, Max. Know what you're talking about. And you might want to take a break, you're just pissing everybody off today.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you know what "defrocked" means.
     

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