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An old saying that is still true. "Those who can do it, do it, those that can't teach it". The best and brightest go into business. Partly for the money but also because teachers are nothing but baby sitters. Today's public school students are undisciplined, unmotivated, and take great pleasure in getting under a teacher's skin. Any teacher who tries to take control will be labeled uncaring and insensitive and be shunned.

Those sports that you hate are probably more beneficial than any class in your school. Those kids learn respect, discipline, team work, and that hard work pays a dividend. They are also getting some exercise. Unlike the normal lard ass who spends all his time eating chips and playing video games.

I had poor kids in my school too. I was one of them. Doesn't mean you have to be stupid of cuddled. Strange thing, when you are treated the same you act the same. Being poor is not a crime it is a fact of life. If you can't accept facts of life, you are doomed to fail. Now being poor is an excuse to be lazy, undisciplined and underachieving. Teachers go aw you are stupid because you are poor, it is not your fault. In my day it was you are not stupid you are not applying yourself, get with it or you will suffer.

 

And is that true for all the 187 countries that signed up to the Paris accords??

 

AI powered by quantum computing will make it very difficult for humans to compete.

Presumably, we'll find a way to divide up what machines produce.

 

It is not just the schools it is in a lot of things

For years I have read bitchfest after bitchfest on global warming with complaints from conservative Americans about how electric cars will never replace fossil fuels how solar would not replace coal etc etc

Now China is set to corner the electric car market and Australia is putting in the first large scale virtual power station run on solar and batteries

American is not being left behind - it is being dragged to a rear position by the conservatives

 

My model planes are brushless.

 

Often true, but not always. I ran a business with 100 employees then taught high school students and adults computers and entrepreneurship.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it's like to teach school if the students like you.

Not than my classes where I taught students how to start a business. BTW, in addition to teaching, I sponsored student government, coached basketball and golf, and had students run the school cafeteria. I organized the work experiece program for the school district.

Sports are best done in the community. We don't need to hire teachers based on sports they can coach.

Poor children need a full stomach, a safe home, and encouragement.

Even though I'm not a fan of government-run schools, I think your claim about teacher attitudes toward poor kids is unfair. Some teachers fit your stereotype, many do not.

 

I don't buy your generalization about conservatives. There are plenty of them who are happy to sell the country and the American people down the drain.

 

From an extremely high level to a very much to high level? The USA wastes 17.1% of the energy of the world. In the year 2000 you wasted 2313.7 Mtoe energy, in 2016 you wasted 2272.7 Mtoe energy. 1.8% less in 16 years. In 1970 - where the knowledge about negative effects of a blind economy for the climate and species extiniction started to grow - you used only 1627.7 Mtoe energy.

I don't have any idea what an US-American could miss. Beton under the own feet? A crown of beton? A beton bed? Beton corn flakes? A beton mind? … I think it makes not a big sense any longer to try to discuss with the USA about any theme. God knows everything but every citizen of the USA knows everything better. This nation of gods is absurde.

 

"lay" ? Go it - You are an inhabitant of laicity. Makes no sense what you say here to me. I don't think by the way that electromobility will "save the world" - to say it with a pathetic expression. I think the world will go lost because of the growing psychological deficits of human beings.

 

Your entitled to be judgemental. No harm there. At least labelling myself as a lay person, one of moderate even low knowledge of the topic, with a fast learning desire I'm not like your good self who clearly boasts some high level of psychological ability unlikely backed up by qualification. Even your arrogance wont get you a pass.

 

What about bushfires in Australia? Hypothese: Growing number and growing intensity within the last 50 years. True or untrue?

 

You think the robots will take over and kill off the human race like in Terminator?

Divide up with what? No jobs, no money. How can the elite uber-rich robot owners make money selling widgets to themselves? You think they'll sell them to the robots? That's about as real as sitting on your hand to make it go to sleep then jerking off with it so it feels like someone elses hand. It's just moving money from one pocket to the other. Unless you believe in perpetual motion machines, it won't work. The only way for it to work is to keep adding wealth.

 

Right

Teachers are only one cog in the liberal educator monopoly over the public schools

But they contribute to the final result

Which is dismal

 

This is an a domestic American issue that does not concern you

Obama tried to pull a fast one on American citizens by not cementing his grand legacy scheme as a treaty in the US senate

And now its history

 

Actually all the satellite measurement are combined from around the world to calculate the global mean temperature, just as all the balloon data sets are combined to calculate the global mean temperature.

 

Actually, the models predicted over three times the actual increase in temperature.

 

Who knows what an entity almost infinitely smarter than people will do? Perhaps it will conclude biological organisms are an inferior menace.

What robots produce.

Who says people need a job to share in the wealth?

Robots won't necessarily be owned and controlled by rich people, or even by people at all.

Robots already add to our wealth. And there are tens of millions of Americans who receive income and services from government without working.

 

Now you say teachers don't run the schools, but they're run instead by a "liberal educator monopoly." How incompetent are the conservatives we have running government in the majority of states if they allow a "liberal eduactor monopoly" to run public education?

 

First, that chart does not use satellite data at all so that is irrelevant.

Second, the data in this chart is for the tropical mid troposphere layer. That is, it is from 20N to 20S latitude at an altitude of about 30,000 ft. So not only is it not showing a global mean temperature. It isn't even showing the temperature at the surface. Pretty strange isn't it?

Third, this chart is from the well known climate misinformer Roy Spencer. He has a history of misrepresenting data. Specifically, he shifts up the modeled data and shifts down the observational data. This makes the modeled vs. observation appear more divergent than it really is.

Fourth, this chart is not recent. When you include recent data most of the gap between modeled vs observation goes away.

Fifth, he chose the RCP8.5 suite of models to make the comparison. RCP8.5 is the worst case "representative concentration pathway" that even the IPCC says is unlikely. In other words RCP8.5 is the set of assumptions that maximize the anthroprogenic influence even beyond what our influence is right now. Pretty shady eh?

Edit: And the irony here is that Spencer STILL acknowledges that the Earth is warming and that humans are playing a role. In fact, in a recent CNN interview he claimed humans are responsible for 50% of the warming. And again, that's from a skeptic who once claimed his and Dr. Christy's UAH dataset was the most accurate available months before it was discovered that they had made the mother of all mistakes and underestimated the warming rate by an astonishing 0.10C/decade rate.

 

No, they don't. Here is the real chart of modeled vs observation that hasn't been fraudulently manipulated and which uses RCP4.5 instead of RCP8.5. Note that the IPCC considers RCP4.5 to be the most likely human trajectory.

First, notice "the pause" in warming from 1998 to 2010. Second, notice that the average of the 5 different observational datasets is almost perfectly on the modeled best guess black line as of 2017.

 

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There are no absolute values given for reference or use in converting back to absolute numbers. NASA's very clear on why they don't use absolute values (from here):

The reason to work with anomalies, rather than absolute temperature is that absolute temperature varies markedly in short distances, while monthly or annual temperature anomalies are representative of a much larger region... ...Q. What do we mean by daily mean SAT [Surface Air Temperature]? A. Again, there is no universally accepted correct answer.
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--but all this is imho a digression.

My whole thinking here is that if this AGW were real, then like we got a standard record on incoming solar energy (2x10^17watts) then we'd also have one generally accepted set measured total average temps of the "globe" (along w/ on definition of just what part or parts of the "globe" we mean), the total average specific heat of this undefined "globe" -- it goes on and on and none of it's clear. The mass of the earth is clear (6x10^27grams). Temperature of the earth? Without agreeing on that we can't say it's warmer or cooler than whenever.

Hey thanks, it really looks like a super neat toy very useful research tool!! [downloading/installing]

Maybe I'll try reading his posts again, he seemed to get all upset w/ me and I had no desire to make him feel bad. Like, sometimes I even find you acting like a dickweed but when I look at what ur responding to I can see my having deserved it. Bottom line is that I'm grateful for the serious stuff u share. Of course some parts get tedious --the endless rationalization, the hidden numbers, the grab for tax-hike dollars-- but hey, that's how us human science people work.

 

Liberal adminstrators and teachers run the public schools

Each has different authority but they all share the responsibility

 

I don't want your money. And I certainly don't want climate change to be a pretext for a redistribution of wealth.

I do think climate change will have costs associated with it. It will either be in the form of mitigating the effects or adapting to them. Either way humans are going to have to pay the piper one way or another. If you believe the alarmists it will be a huge bill. If you believe deniers it will be a small bill. If you believe scientists it will be somewhere in the middle.

I can tell you this. Even if we do nothing and embark on the IPCC worst case RCP8.5 scenario human civilization will not end. We will adapt. It'll just be harder and more costly later on then if we had jumped into the problem head first and tried to solve it sooner.

Whatever the solution, whether it's higher taxes or not, needs to be applied fairly to all people.

 

Do you have a better model, than like, CO2 to explain the warming then?

 

You're not clear and most people would have to guess that you're hiding your intentions.

Your saying you don't want my money on the surface appears to contradict the fact you're also saying that people like me are going to pay something (we're talking about money) to--- ---sounds like you mean the government. Maybe you could change the conflict to consistency by saying that you have no idea how much money this will be --maybe no significant amount at all-- and then you could also say that this is all going to be in the far vague future --say, after maybe thousands or millions of years.

You're not saying. Given the fact that there are already several jurisdictions have begun imposing "green" taxes for AGW, my guess is you're ether lying or you haven't thought this through. I'd be very happy to find things are not as they appear and that my guesses were mistakenly based on incomplete info.