Muslim beaten to death in India for killing a cow

Right. And I don't know why any westerner would ever go, unless their job sent them, to these kinds of nations. ha ha. There are many places I would love to see, personally, but the middle east is not one of them. Nor anywhere in africa. I like civilized people, and prefer to be around them.

 

This was the first racial law in the very long history of Germany. I was introduced from the Nazis in 1935. But where did this idea come from? I fear the source is from the USA, where marriages between blacks and whites were forbidden. Marriages between blacks and whites were still forbidden in 1950 in 30 states of the USA and in 1967 - 22 years after world war 2 - this racial laws were forbidden from the Supreme Court of the USA.

And in case of "Muslim beaten to death in India for killing a cow" is not the word "Muslim" important - it could had been also "Man beaten to death in India for killing a cow". He was killed from a mob because this what he did caused an outrage. The simple medicine to avoid such problems is the very old advice: "In Rome do as the Romans do".

 

The muslims were pretty quiet for 200 years after Jefferson freed the Med. sea from pirates.
Then the deserts of the mid- east were easier to circumnavigate than pass through. So we knew little about what happened there.

Now oil money has brought them out of their cage, with the same sicko religion of rob, rape, and kill, as the 10th century

 

You last statement has validity. And that oil money has spread the most virulent form of islam. Wahabbism.

 

Which is Saudi Arabia, same people who brought you 9/11, Boston, and the next one.

But we have financial ties there and all is overlooked for the almighty dollar.

 

????? Im an atheist but grew up in a Presbyterian family. The Sermon on the mount was pretty prominent in Sunday school and sermons, specifically in its departure from the Old Testament calling for an eye for an eye. As was his encounter with the woman guilty of adultery at the mount of olives and its departure from the old testament call for stoning those guilty of adultery. We ate shell fish, Sabbath on Saturdays were irrelevant, we wore clothes with the prohibited blending of fabrics. Where is this Christianity you speak of where an eye for an eye is popular.

 

I certainly wouldn't defend the Saudis or Wahhabism, but the only thing that differentiates Wahhabism from every other of the dozens of brands of Islamic Fundamentalism is that it separates church and state. The Agreement in the 1700s between the house of Wahhab and the house of Saud is a part of Wahhabism, putting the Sauds in charge of all temporal matters of governance and leaving religious matters to the Wahhabs. Wahhabism is the anti caliphate. ISIS, Al Qaeda and every other Islamic Fundamentalist who demands a return to the Islamic Caliphate governing over all matters, temporal and religious, applying Islamic doctrine as law DO NOT have in mind the house of Saud to be in charge when the Caliphate is restored.

 

In the conflict resistless each toil they endured,
'Till their foes fled dismayed from the war's desolation;
And pale beamed the crescent, its splendor obscured
By the light of the star-spangled flag of our nation.
Where each radiant star gleamed a meteor of war,
And the turbaned heads bowed to its terrible glare,
Now mixed with the olive the laurel shall wave,
And form a bright wreath for the brow of the brave.

Francis Scott Key

 

You confuse Hindus and Muslims. Its the muslim world which will always be backwards, full of savagery and away from any enlightment as long as they dont discard the mass murderer, torturer and psychopath they see as the last prophet.

 

Actually it is a Hindu temple, Karni Mata Temple, and they are overrun with rats.

 

I for myself despise mob lynchings. Anyway, when Muslims see their religous feelings hurt as a justification for violence, I dont see why I should whine about that. I cannot judge by the individual level, maybe that Muslim was ok and the people who lynched him just were just savages, I dont know.

On the larger scale India is under attack by Islam and the Islamic world right now is not able to live in peace with other religions. I dont know that individual Muslim, but in general Islam does not accept Hindus, but Hindus would accept Muslims, if they would respect them. Same with Buddhism, Chinese philosophies, atheists and even to some extend Christians and Jews.

 

Well the Quran makes it a crime for every Muslim woman to have a relationship with a non-Muslim man. So should the Quran be respected?

 

OK, post a link to any thread you started condemning any Muslim action or Muslim nation.

What I read is you now making a ranting defense of Islam while attacking Christianity - reproving my point.

You don't have a clue of the history of India and Pakistan, do you?

 

Actually it says a muslim man can marry a non-muslim woman, but I don't recall it saying a woman cannot marry a non-muslim man.
This is in practice however, and a man must convert to marry a woman, mainly for her family honor.

 

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No, but many of you Islam haters are so deeply ridiculous with idiotic, unproven assertions, exaggerations and a bunch of lies. It is also ridiculous if, in order to justify your hate, some then really claim that the Christian religion is so much more peaceful in the Bible as the Islam with Koran. This statement is nothing else as mental diarrhea because the Old Testament is also full of violence and call for violence and barbaric things, but then it is claimed that only the New Testament is Christianity - nonsense!
And you Islam haters have become really implausible, since you chatter like a parrot same trash fake and lies as the reason for your Islam hate, which the Islamists scum takes as a justification for the terror. According to the Koran, Christians and Jews are unbelievers who must be destroyed? Laughter ...

Actually the muslim doctrine is far more violent than Christian.
First of all, the OT is jewish, not Christian, and is little more than a history book for Christians.
The religion changed with the coming of Christ.
Muslim doctrine consists of Qur'an, Ishaq, Taburi, Bukhari, and muslim. and if far more violent than anything written.
And According to the Qur'an and other texts, yes Christians and Jews must be killed, exceptions are if they convert, or pay the Jizya tax to be protected and allowed to live.

 

The reasons for my criticisms of Islam are found in quotes from the Koran. The same verses Islamists use to justify their terror. These quotes aren't trash, fake or lies. That's why today, cries of Allah Akbar are frequently followed by a bunch of dead people.

3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.(*)

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...(*)

2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;(*)

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/

 

Wrong. It does not say people "of the book" must be killed. All it says is that they must pay tax, just like all Muslims do. It also say that they don't have to pay any tax if they cannot afford it which is just as applies to Muslims too. And they are exempted if they join the military. Pagans are to be escorted to the borders of Islamic lands and told to leave or convert. Pagans are not to be killed unless they go back on their word

 

I see you are not familiar with Islam.
Muhammed in words and deeds killed non-believers.
You have in the messenger a beautiful pattern of conduct to follow. ( Qur'an)
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Also the people pay the 'Zakat" tax.
Non-muslims living on muslim land pay the 'Jizya" tax

Yusuf Ali
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
[Quran 9:29]

 

What you recall is irrelevant to what Islamic doctrine proscribes and what Muslims believe.

https://islamqa.info/en/21380

 

Muslims belief's are different as night and day, depending on what they are taught.

I am somewhat familiar with Islamic doctrine.
Please show me what Islamic doctrine proscribes on this subject.

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

 

Ill let the Muslims at the link speak for themselves

 

I'll wait.

 

What you have to realize if that most muslims know little about the religion itself, the documented version.
Instead they know lots of what they were taught at the mosque, and by their peers.

I always confront a muslim with, "where did you learn about muhammed"
he's not in the Qur'an, mentioned 4 times and at least 3 could be someone else.

 

Oh I certainly am familiar with Islam. Did you know that the Zakat tax could be at a higher amount than the Jizya tax? So trying to make it sound more ominous by stating the different taxes is disingenuous