What Obama and his political Choom Gang did is far worse than Watergate

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No, If you actually watched it you know that hillary knows theyre guilty, because she thinks theyre all gonna hang if Trump gets elected.....
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He was not "required" to give money to the Clinton's. He SAW TO IT that they got it.
     
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    Downer is not the Australian ambassador to the UK; the ambassador may well have been unknowingly MANIPULATED, as was Papadopolous, to give the PLOT the "APPEARANCE" of legitimacy.

    Spies do that kind of crap....especially ones with 30+ years at the CIA, like Halper, who HEADED UP the London crimes...
     
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    I watched enough of it to know that it is incoherent nonsense spewed by an anonymous You Tube poster.

    Why anyone would assign credence to trash like that is beyond me. But Trumspters prefer this sort of drivel (and cartoons) to verifiable news and actual fact. You post trash like this all the time, and act disappointed when no one takes you or the trash you post seriously.
     
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    He was, until very recently, the High Commissioner to the United Kingdom.
     
  6. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Hillary promised to get matt lauer fired and guess what.....

    matt lauer got fired......

    Hillary said if Trump gets elected theyre all gonna "hang"....

    Trump got elected and now it looks like their all gonna "hang"
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow. Impressive. And?
     
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    Infiltrating an opposing candidates campaign trying to find a crime is pretty bad.
     
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    I would think so.

    But there is no evidence of that.
     
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    So you agree that our intelligence agencies and DOJ directed by Obama appointees had the legal right to surveil and listen in on telecommunications of the then Republican presidential candidate and then president elect. Now most Americans were told through the MSM that the reason was Russian election interference and possible collusion of the president with Russia. Meanwhile the DNC refused the FBI access to their database servers that were allegedly hacked. One would believe that there was a little abuse of power in these actions.
    I wonder how Democrats would begin to feel if President Trump's Intelligence and Justice Department appointees made the same claims in the upcoming 2020 election made the same decisions as the directors under Obama and then began to surveil the Democratic Party Presidential campaign workers and access their telecommunications.
    Would you be agreeable to such election chicanery by Republican operatives? I think not.
    ITMT, why are Democrats and the biased MSM trying to bury the trial of the Awan Brothers hacking of the DNC database and over 70 Congresspersons.
     
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    No evidence other than the left wing NYT.
     
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    Who would know better than the person who did many of the crimes for which they'll hang.

    If Hillary thinks they're gunna hang, for once, I believe her!

    I think this might be the first time Hillary has ever said something I believe is from the heart and honest.

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    In 2013 DNI James Clapper was forced to apologize for lying to congress about spying and surveillance on the American people.

    In 2014 CIA Director John Brennan was forced to apologize for spying on the Senate and conducting surveillance of Congress.

    Now they claim to not have spied on Trump.

    Bet you believe them.
     
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    We have about a dozen threads from right wingers who claim Obama committed some crimes but none of their dreamed up theories have ever been proven in a court of law.

    By contrast, one of Obama's accusers has been convicted for crimes he committed:


    Texas Republican Who Pushed To Impeach Obama Just Got Jailed After Being Convicted Of 23 Felonies


    A Republican former congressman from Texas has been convicted of fraud after funneling $1.25 million from donors into personal expenses as part of what prosecutors have described as a “white collar crime spree.”

    A jury in federal court in Houston ruled Thursday afternoon that former GOP lawmaker Steve Stockman (Texas) is guilty of all but one of the 24 felonies he was charged with last March.

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    When he was in Congress, Stockman, a staunch conservative, gained notoriety for threatening to seek the impeachment of then-President Barack Obama if he tried to implement gun control regulations through executive action.

    https://politicaldig.com/texas-repu...-prison-after-being-convicted-in-23-felonies/





    Let's see what forum Republicans have to say about that.


    By the way, I will gladly take bets as to whether those convictions will or will not be overturned by the Republican managed Supreme Court.
     
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    Bullshit.

    We have an event and two completely different "takes"on it

    an intel asset made contact with Carter Page and George Papa because of their contact with Russian spies.

    Trump is calling that "a spy embedded in his campaign". On it's face that is a lie. The guy was never "embedded" in anything.

    Separate from that the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign because of Papa's bragging about Russian contacts . That eventually grew into the Mueller campaign.

    The claim is that this was a political "spying" endeavor when the fact is...the FBI kept it secret throughout the campaign . Had they leaked that there was an investigation it likely could have resulted in a different electoral outcome.

    The idea that the FBI was choosing sides and that the side they chose was Clinton is absurd.

    On the one hand they were very public about investigating Clinton (including a bogus "reopening" of said investigation days before the election) and very secretive about an investigation of the Trump team having contact with Russian spies.

    If the FBI tilted the scales...they tilted them towards Trump
     
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    Watergate is not even on the same planet as the totalitarianism tactics employed by Obama.
     
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    Rod...we've seen your confusion in the past
     
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    don't you see the irony of this post? hardcore left wingers say ridiculous **** about Trump, hardcore right wingers say ridiculous **** about Obama and Clinton, and everyone in the middle suffers. Any person with a shred of objective thinking can clearly see this article is a mouth piece. Made to get dumb-ass's worked up clicking on links making the author money. That is the real scam here, its actually has nothing to do with a clearly biased and clearly false article about the abuse of presidential power. It has to do with you, and your willingness to believe just about anything negative about the opposing side, and anything positive about you own. I will be the first one to agree that liberals have the same problems. But so does the right and not only are you a part of that problem you exasperate it. You are not a true American, true Americans respect one another and don't bye into propaganda. You are a tribal right winger, you are exactly the reason america is in the state of disarray it is in.
     
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    So far some of the redacted information includes $5000 latte machines and $70,000 conference tables, when the IG actually begins to dig in, the info will be much more revealing.
     
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    Blah, blah, blah . . . why, I do believe that I hear the shrill and piercing wail of an utterly empty mind. Fascinating.
     
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    There is ample evidence that the Obama Administration had weaponized the Federal Bureaucracy against those which were on his enemies list, which is pretty Nixonesque, if you spend some time thinking about it.

    He had the Customs Department raid the Gibson Guitar Factory for the flimsiest of excuses.
    He closed down GM dealerships who supported right wing causes.
    He weaponized the IRS against the Tea Party.
    The IRS attacked right wing commentators having some conservative pundits being audited eight years in a row.
    His administration wiretapped the Trump campaign in a manner which would make Richard Nixon smile with joy.

    The two major differences between the Nixon presidency and the Obama presidency was that there were Republicans that were repulsed by the excesses of the Nixon Administration and were willing to come forward to put an end to it, and second, Nixon, although morally and psychologically unfit to be president was at least nominally competent.
     
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    that's it deflect, is seems to be the standard trick your type have. Instead of engaging into a meaningful discussion you would rather assume i have nothing a value to say. Instead of recognizing that maybe, just maybe your viewpoint has been influenced by biased, borderline false propaganda. Instead of doing a little self reflection and realize that everything you blame the liberal left of doing you are guilty of doing yourself. I am sure my words mean nothing to you, i am sure that you coming to some grand realization of your own faults as an individual is unlikely. It's actually kind of funny when you think about it, Americans are suppose to value personal responsibility, isn't that what all the right wingers preach. A shame it seems you believe that responsibility doesn't apply to your own behavior, actions and words that; as i said before only perpetuates and exasperates the issues America has today, or to sum all this up in one word. !!!!!! IRONY !!!!!
     
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    Pssst . . . you launched a personal attack against me in your very first ever posting to me and then you self-righteously DEMAND that I engage in a meaningful back and forth with you? Hahahaha! You are now on ignore.
     
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    If it is proven true and Obama is not charged, then we have every reason to believe we have a compromised government that no longer respects the laws of this country and has gone rogue.
     
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    Gee, the Washington Times does a flimsy hit piece on Obama. Big surprise there!
     

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