Why not mandate trigger locks and locked gun cases?

Nonnie, it is the first amendment that is causing the repeated carnage. Bet if you muzzles the media about those types of shootings, they would soon stop. As long as the media makes "Jessy James" AKA school shooters famous, it is going to continue and get worse. We have a social problem, not a gun problem.
It use to be when kids would torture other kids, when the kid went home, he was away from the bullying and could "recover". Now they can call you after school, they can humiliate you on line in front of your friends in the evening, or call you, text you, IT NEVER STOPS!!!. Now add a little mental illness or a Ritalin prescription, and BOOM< BOOM BOOM!
It is society that needs to grow up, and we need to muzzle the press, as they are the real reason behind the killings.

 

Which you admit is a problem about which you would do nothing.

Oh...

 

Keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them? Like the Texas shooter or the Sandy Hook shooter or....any number of toher mass shooters

 

So you need to remove guns out of the public domain. Handguns and many types of rifle should be banned. Allowed shotguns and rifles should be locked up at home until used at a sporting event, vermin control, clay pigeon shooting etc.. but never taken into a public place.

They should have trigger locks on, only you have the gun cabinet keys and all strictly controlled by a certificate. You should get inspected and any errors means you lose the right to own guns. American society needs to get serious and safe with guns.

 

In the UK, even the storage of air rifles are controlled.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-offence-keeps-airguns-under-lock-and-key

....... owners will be liable for a fine of up to £1000 if they do not take reasonable precautions to stop unauthorised access to their airgun by people under the age of 18. Safety leaflets informing new owners of the offence will be also be included with every air gun purchased.

 

A gun hugger wrote

It is society that needs to grow up, and we need to muzzle the press, as they are the real reason behind the killings.

But...the Constitution...

Oh...

 

So if I rob a 7-11, my brother should go to jail? When you have freedom, some people use them incorrectly. That is an individual choice.

Tomorrow it could be me shot at a Waffle House. Life has risks. Why are you SCARED Nonnie? Do your people (British SUBJECTS) lack the ability to make rational decisions, think for yourselves, make decisions without ramifications like having a gun and to allow to be free? Your government thinks it's people are STUPID and you are subjects of the state. That is why we revolted in American and went our own way. WE DO have people in our government also think people are stupid and helpless, thus we have the NRA to let them know they are not.

Freedom isn't free. Should we disarm and disband our military because young kits at 18 will be shot by enemy soldiers?

EVERY freedom a man has, can be taken because "somebody" misuses it. The reasons almost every dictator in history has used to enslave the populace.

 

Does it matter if it is the first or the second? The REAL problem is the press and the internet. When you start Banning things, you end up on a slippery slope. That is why we have both the second and the first amendment, to protect our people from people who think like you do.

 

Yea it matters.

We still have a free press/ We don't have a militia

 

A company released a video game called "Active Shooter". The player pretends to be an active shooter. It is hard to know where to start with such insanity.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...-fire-for-creating-school-shooting-video-game

 

No purpose that's what i was trying to say, i wasn't trying to troll you. I was kind of agreeing with you, trigger locks are only useful as a safety tool for personal storage but as a means of stopping gun deaths its pretty pointless. I do however wonder what your take is on universal background checks?

 

Leftists don't bother learning, it gives them more time to make demands that sooth their feelings.

 

I did indeed assume you were trying to troll me. My bad

I don't think UBCs will work.

I live in WA where we've had UBCs for some years. While in the interest of objectivity, it has not lessened the degree to which I feel I can excersize my constitutional rights... tens of millions of $ of UBCs has led thus far to ONE prosecution of an illegally purchased weapon by a prohibited person AFTER they shot someone to death with it (so it hasnt even demonstrably saved one life yet).

Theres still no one investigating prohibited persons who attempt to buy guns, just as is the case nationwide. So long as this remains true, making new restrictive gun laws seems, at best, a total waste of taxpayer money.

 

Oh I see.

So if someone kicks your door down and cuts open your safe and takes your firearms, they were never secured.

I guess that means if someone breaks into your house and murders you it was really your fault.

 

Blame it on society, blame it on a "disease". It is none of that, it is person misbehavior.

And good one who's fault is it if someone breaks into your house and kills you. It was your fault they killed you, robbed the 7-11 it was the clerks fault etc.... EXCELLENT

The liberal montra, "it isn't my fault, society made me do it.!

Or to copy Flip Wilson "The devil made me do it!!!

 

Wrong
The militia is any male between 16-60. And I was "well regulated", meaning my weapons were clean, in full operational state, with sufficient ammunition. With 300 million guns, we ARE the militia

 

Don't get your panties in a wad and get liberal emotional. We played army when we were kids, and few in my generation killed other people in the schools. Better they play it out in a fantasy, than in a reality.

 

Maybe you can answer where the OPer has failed to even try to do so-

If someone steals my gun and I claim they must have picked the lock, am I legally at fault?

 

I can't imagine anyone thinking that video game is acceptable. With all the bitching by the left on school shootings, they should be screaming at this. But not a word.

 

Then if such is truly the case, why are there simply not thirty eight individual states willing to come together and amend the united states constitution? Why does the notion of updating the constitution appear to be more of a fringe movement than anything with credibility?

 

Ahh but there is a flip side to publicity that you, again, fail to take in to consideration There used to be this old school term for murders and mirrored acts of violence that a more logical people used to call "Copy cat Crimes/criminals"! I suspect this type of scenario is alien to the current left wing agenda that thrives on non-stop press to push their anti-gun agenda at any cost, even to the point of irresponsible media attention that "Some" crave and want.. There is a fine line at how much attention should be giving to alert society of a problem, but the agenda driven leftist give these nut-job 24/7 media stardom and in my opinion are encouraging these acts to be more frequent and more deadly! As history shows, Democrats in their misguided attempt to fixing a problem "Always" creates five more worse problem while never fixing a thing!

 

And in the united states, it is illegal to cut the barrel of a shotgun down to less than eighteen inches, unless it is registered with the federal government for taxation purposes.

The firearms in question were stored in a locked safe.

The shooters father should be jailed for life.[/QUOTE]

Pray tell for what exactly? The keys to the safe were stolen from the father, making him a victim of a crime. What exactly could he be charged for, even under the standards in place in the united kingdom?

 

Or breaks in and hold a gun to your Wife or Childs head and demand the combo or key code, you fail to secure by giving in and giving the codes as death would be the more acceptable in this scenario!

 

Factually incorrect. No such argument has been made on the part of myself. It has certainly been argued that the problem of mass shootings will continue so long as the focus remains on the implement, rather than the individual. It has been argued that what other nations have done will not work in the united states, because no other nation has ever possessed anywhere near the sheer number of firearms that the united states possesses.

But it has never once been stated that nothing would be done on the part of myself to address the problem of mass shootings.

 

And yet in the Santa Fe and Sandy Hook incidents, the firearms were indeed secured in locked safes. But such still did nothing to prevent either incident from occurring. Therefore the supposed purpose of trigger lock mandates, keeping firearms out of the hands of people who should not have them" is failing to be met even when it is being complied with. Indicating the purpose is illegitimate, and the mandate serves no reason in even existing.