What Obama and his political Choom Gang did is far worse than Watergate

Actually yes it is, and that was the point of the O.P. in that politically speaking they wouldn't have dared to have presented something to the public along those lines while Barack Obama was still president, because then the Left inclusively would have moved Heaven and Earth in an attempt to destroy them.

But now the Left is politically out of power and position and doesn't have the unity of spirit and nor the endless ready cash anymore to go after a relatively little Right of Center media outlet like that. The point being that times have changed for the utterly vindictive Left. It's a breath of fresh air.

 

Nothing has changed at all. Obama was visciously attacked by the right before he was elected and throughout his two terms. The left relentlessly attacked Cheney/Bush for their lying and war profiteering during their time in office. Now Trump, through his own actions has gotten his whole administration into a bunch of hot water by hiring unregistered foreign agents and sleazy money launderers and a mob type "fixer" like Cohen to represent him. The political landscape is uglier than I have ever seen and I have been following it since the mid '60s. But to suggest that it is one sided is ridiculous. Also this idiotic campaign run by Trump, his Russian disinformation cohorts and Fox News to attack the DOJ and the FBI is just more partisan bull crap.

 

Not confused in the least. My eyes are wide open and focused. If you think an administration illegally and wholesale using the power of the government to interfere with the candidacy, the election, and the administration of new elected president, and to enhance the elect-ability of the candidate of their choice equates to a president not coming clean over a second rate break-in, you get another dozen thinks coming. I'll bet you even believe that saw that they were not spies, they were secretly implanted informants to aid the Trump campaign by passing information to the administration but not to Trump

 

I agree that the FBI aiding Trump by announcing an investigation 10 days before an election (and then closing it days later) is screwy yes.

I find it amazing that with that happening and the fact that the FBI said zero to the press about the Trump campaign being under investigation for collusion with the Russian government (which at the time was pretty startling) that anyone with a straight face can say that the FBI or the Obama Admin was trying to help Hillary and hurt Trump...

 

Yep, that little fact always seems to escape the crackpots. If anything, Comey unfairly helped trump get elected. I'm sure he did what he thought was right at the time, but that was still the end result - Comey probably cost Hillary the election.

Note how I don't turn it into some kind of crackpot conspiracy theory. Even though Comey helped get the most dangerous criminal elected in US history, it wasn't a conspiracy. It was just bad timing, bad luck, the luck of the draw, call it what you will, but it was not a conspiracy in the FBI to get trump elected, even though that was the result.

 

You recall, I'm sure, that before Comey reopened the investigation he got on television and said he had just interviewed Hillary (not under oath and with her lawyers present) and found she had committed a felony but "she didn't do it intentionally" and he was not going to charge her with a crime. I would view that as an extremely helpful action to her candidacy. Then he re-opened up the investigation only because he found a pile of her emails that she had earlier promised - twice -- that had been turned over to the FBI as requested. So if Hillary had responded as she should have and not erased (and wiped clean) half her emails and given at least all the rest to the FBI there would have been no re-opening of the investigation. Comey was obligated to re-open because he had told congress that they had all of Hillary's emails, and when that proved to be wrong Comey had a legal obligation to so inform congress. Comey and the FBI then whipped through thousands of emails in three days and declared everything was back to AOK.
Where Trump help is in all of this totally escapes me.

 

" The Obama administration — with or without the knowledge and direction of President Obama himself " How could he not know? Will that be his defense? It's highly unlikely that he didn't know but it doesn't matter either way it happened on his watch. What the DOJ needs to do now is use the same tactics that Mueller used in the Russia farce. They need to go after Obama associates and intimidate them and threaten them with substantial jail time until they find one who'll spill their guts.

 

Gezz don't be such a snow flake, i thought you guys were against that kind of stuff.

 

And if Hillary had won we would know nothing at all about it.

 

Claiming that Clinton committed a felony is "helpful" to her campaign?

On what planet...

 

No, not indicting and prosecuting her for committing a felony three months before the election was a massive help to her candidacy.

 

Felony? Please define? Let's discuss.

 

Federal Records Act
https://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/faqs/federal.html

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Report: FBI probe of Hillary is focused on Section 793(f ...
www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/10/report-fbi-probe-of-hillary...
Some weeks ago, I attempted a preliminary analysis of whether Hillary Clinton violated 18 U.S.C. Section 793(f). This provision states: ... of Espionage Act.

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18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing ...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering ... If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, ... U.S.C., 1940 ed., ...18 U.S.C. 794 · Code 792

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18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention ...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924
18 U.S. Code § 1924 ... position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, ...
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18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information ...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
18 U.S. Code § 798 ... States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information ... (42 U.S.C. 10601

 

Go ask Comey are watch his speech of July 2016. Or check out Wehrwolfen's post -- the precise section is 18 (Title 1 US Code, Part 1, Chapter 37, § 793, ……. (f).

 

Regardless...there was no "campaign help" there

 

This is an opinion piece: the article you are citing. An opinion piece. Do you know the difference between fact and opinion?

 

I have no idea where that smiley face came from.......

 

Nothing to discuss Hillary is a felon and a criminal, no doubt about it.

 

But 'laws are just for the little people".

 

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That is what the Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats would have us believe....

 

"What Obama and his political Choom Gang did is far worse than Watergate"

the right is ridiculous, Trump is playing you, have fun with your alternative facts, wont change the facts Mueller discovers

 

Bush gets credit for Iraq, he started that stupid war over a lie, and while investigators were still in the country telling him no WMD found, he said get out, I am going to war anyways - Bush was the decider and he decided

 

the Bush Admin used personal email and the Trump admin is using personal email too, seems the right only cares when the left uses personal email

 

There is nothing wrong with using private email unless classified info is sent or received, which Clinton did.

 

yes, the Trump admin may be breaking the law, let's release all their personal email accounts email and find out


"Rice aides, Powell got classified info on personal email accounts"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0VD2EQ


like I said, republican only care when it's democrats that use personal email