Even the NY Times admits the Trump economy is fantastic

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  1. Josephwalker

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    You keep making false claims and I keep proving them false. Now you write a book lenghth response to try and wiggle out of it.

    Gish gallop" is a technique used during debating that focuses on overwhelming one's opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments.
    Gish gallop - Wikipedia

    During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, and misrepresentations in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate.[3][4] In practice, each point raised by the "Gish galloper" takes considerably more time to refute or fact-check than it did to state in the first place.[5] The technique wastes an opponent's time and may cast doubt on the opponent's debating ability for an audience unfamiliar with the technique, especially, if no independent fact-checking is involved,[6] or, if the audience has limited knowledge of the topics.

    Generally, it is more difficult to use the Gish gallop in a structured debate than in a free-form one.[7] If a debater is familiar with an opponent who is known to use the Gish gallop, the technique may be countered by preempting and refuting the opponent's commonly used arguments first, before the opponent has an opportunity to launch into a Gish gallop."
     
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    Trump inherited a falling GDP of 1.2%.
     
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    Obama's economy was "the new normal" of stagnation reminiscent of the Carter years " less is more". Suddenly we are off to the races since Trump has systematically reversed Obama economic policy. Just a coincidence I guess. LOL
     
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    Reality is an illusion for Twerp and his minions.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. There is a huge difference between walking into office with a 72 Billion dollar deficit and an economy that is doing reasonably well and walking into:

    1) 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit
    2) Housing bubble that has just collapsed - housing prices drop by half
    3) Stock market crash - Dow from 14,000 to 6500
    4) Financial system of verge of collapse - commercial paper markets froze (meaning if GE gets a 5 billion dollar project to build some nuclear power plant it can not do the project because it can not get money from the commercial paper markets) ..... if not unfrozen the economy will grind to a halt
    5) Revenue decreased from 2.7 Trillion down to 2.1 Trillion and took until 2013 to recover to 2008 levels.

    I am a huge critic of Obama but, criticizing the captain of a ship - who takes command while the ship is on fire and about to sink - for using too much water is just stupid.

    Trump has just thrown an extra 500 Billion into the economy - during good economic times. I would hope this would have a stimulatory effect. The problem is that - like how a household can increase spending by taking on more credit card debt - long term this will had a negative impact. This is especially true in a rising interest rate environment.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO... he didn't. The debt was 12 Billion when Obama started introduced his first budget.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not make one false claim. You twirling around in circles crying "false false false" without even mentioning the claim that you think is false ... is not an argument for anything.
     

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