Senate Democrats reject GOP legislative fix to stop family separations

A few lines of a bill why not post the whole thing?

I suggest you google what Susan Collins said.. She is hardly a fan of Trump.

 

The Democrats will reject anything the Republicans put forth. It is politics. The days of true bipartisanship are behind us.

 

G.O.P. Moves to End Trump’s Family Separation Policy, but Can’t Agree How
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-separated-families.html


What has been proposed?

 

He's enforcing the law.

You want the law changed? Then play ball and get it fixed. Stop whining.

 

I suggest you post a link to what Susan Collins said.... that's what serious posters usually do...

However, out of curiosity, and because I've come to respect Collins as a true moderate.... I did it anyway... this is all I found (and I love that it's Maddow... might send you into a spin)

SNIP
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), generally seen as the most moderate of the Senate Republicans, at least by 2018 standards, has been critical of the Trump administration’s family-separation policy, but she announced yesterday that she considers the Feinstein bill “too broad.”

Collins said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” she prefers a comprehensive bill that fell short months ago – legislation that included funding for Trump’s border wall – which the White House opposes for not being far enough to the right.
ENDSNIP

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...s-endorse-the-dems-keep-families-together-act

Well, sure... a comprehensive bill would be best, but folks are just trying to cap the latest Trump oil spill (which he should do himself... it's like cleaning up after a toddler visits your house)... but any "quick" legislation on this particular issue that includes wall funding is NOT a clean bill....

"too broad" is hardly a death sentence from Collins.. I'd like to to see specific comments on what she considers too broad...

 

You mean replying and discussing a full bill instead of "snipping" a few lines of it like you did? Ahem.. Guess you are not "serious".

 

My bad, I did forget to post the Feinstein bill URL with my snip, so here it is

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...EAD252B3F78.keeping-families-together-act.pdf

Had it in there at one point... but since I was responding to your BS about arrests and 100 miles, I assumed you had already read it... that's my bad as well...

 

Good lord. Did you even rad the article ?

Its NOT a clean bill. Their trying ta attach it to the spending bill (the border wall)

 

The article is, of course, a lie, separating children from family NEVER has been a Trump policy. An Obama policy, a Clinton policy, a Bush policy, a Democratic Party policy and Democrat federal judge policy - never a Trump policy.

There is no "free press" left in the USA. They all went broke and were bought out by the global super rich, who have turned the press into their corporate propaganda and PR outlets, nothing else. The NY Times is nothing but advertisements and propaganda for its super rich owners.

 

The Democrats have turned down every attempt even when Trump up their demand of 700,000 DACA kids to 1,800,000 DACA kids.

 

Nope 2014.

 

No he didn't that was Obama in 2014.

 

They will find themselves losing even more ground now. Trump ran on doing what he's doing right now.

Make eVerify mandatory for employment and ALL government benefits. Then take away their ability to keep legitimate jobs with phony, underage or stolen social security numbers. The SSA and IRS are all too well aware of multiple people using a single social security number. With modern computer databases, it wouldn't be hard to pluck out all the duplicate, non issued or under age users excepting the original issuee. Then send notices to their employers the duplicate users payments are coming from that there appears to be an error and they must verify the social security number within 30 days or face massive fines and jail time. Then move on to the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number filers, requiring them to provide their valid visa's allowing them to remain legally in the country, send notices to their employers the ITIN employee payments are coming from must verify the employee's valid visa within 30 days or face massive fines and jail time. Compile a list of those failing to provide the valid visa's and investigate if they are in the country legally, if not deport them.

 

Show me where I stated those words. The fact is that I didn't; you are being dishonest by stating that.

Don't confuse me with either alt-left or alt-right; I'm not attached to either part of the same hypocrisy as you may be. I'm just stating the obvious; the truth can be a very bitter pill for you to swallow.

 

So for the first year and half of his presidency Trump ignored the laws?

 

Ok so first off it’s hilarious that you bitched about my source, which was the actual source of the bill, but then you cite slate and actually think you’ll be taken seriously.

Second off this article is an opinion piece based off of no actual evidence or facts from the bill and is entirely focus on the speculation of the opinion writer that if the families were kept together they would be kept in unsatisfactory conditions.

Third. At no point in time does YOUR OWN CITED ARTICLE is your claim that the bill is not clean EVER even mentioned let alone proven. You claimed the bill was unclean and filled with other add ones. Your OWN CITED article claims the exact opposite. You are an epic fail.

Forth off. Ok will you people make up your damn mind? First you were bitching about kids being separated but now you’re saying you don’t want the families kept together? Why don’t you just admit what it is you’re really after?

 

No. That is a completely different bill that has nothing to do with this one. This is a stand alone bill. Did you not read the article? At no point in time is the wall even mentioned.

 

You blame the sky if acid rain fell on your property

 

Why do you hate brown people?

 

From this we can assume that there are plenty of avenues that the powers that be could push for to resolve this immediate problem w/out involving DACA or The Wall. Good on TCruz and any politician who is working to end this mess for good as quickly and cleanly as possible.

Even if I thought it would help the politicians I like win midterms, I would be ashamed if this problem isn't dealt with once and for all in a few weeks.

 

So again your obvious truth is you don’t actually care about these kids and never did despite your claims that this was exactly like the Nazis. Good job alt leftists. You have an actual bill to solve this but you don’t support it because it isn’t politically advantageous to your side. Pathetic.

 

This is a humanitarian atrocity, NOT a policy negotiation.

You need to learn to tell the difference.

The idea that perpetrating a humanitarian atrocity is a legitimate negotiating technique in America is something that absolutely MUST be rejected in no uncertain terms.

 

You still don't get it. You never pointed out to me what I asked before and like I said, I''m not a member of either side (democrat or republican). One last time I'm pointing out the obvious to you. Never call anyone pathetic until you can read properly.

 

Just put it on the floor. I'll vote for it.

 

Getting better all the time.
The airlines are refusing to fly the kids to shelters across the country.
I think Trump may have just realized his EO can't coexist with his zero tolerance policy either.
Maybe time for EO #2.