Iran threatens to block straights of Hormuz

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  1. Margot2

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    You mean like Beit Din?

    Its voluntary civil arbitrage between Muslims.. doesn't supersede US law. Does that answer your question?
     
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    In most of the Arab world Shia and Sunni coexist without much conflict..

    Why do you think Israel has complained about Syrian drug smuggling for 30 years?
     
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    No, that's simple arbitration. I asked if you support the substitution of Sharia in place of US law for inter-Muslim disputes.
     
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    Cut it out Margot. Yes, others might have been denied the same opportunities as the Alawites, but everything is relative - and Assad has made adjustments to the constitution otherwise they wouldn't be joining his army so readily. No Syrian wants to live under sharia law after tasting the freedom of the Assad government - and sharia law is what the US, UK, Fr, KSA, Qatar, Turkey and Israel has been trying to push on them.

    As for the Christians and other minorities, they ran to Damascus to be under Assad's protection - so stop turning black into white and white into black.

    Why not a little reality, it's good for the soul and one's mental health. :oldman:
     
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    Of course Russia has a motive, to survive the onslaught of the hegemon.
     
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    Who is it that Russia fear their hegemony?
     
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    Assad completely rejected the new constitution that would limit his power. Christians towed the line in fear of Assad.. The family has a serious track record of brutality and oppression going back to the 1970s.
     
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    Then be clear what that is about.. Its voluntary civil arbitration between Muslims.. You are trying to turn it into something else.. something sinister.. Its no different than Rabbinical court which also does NOT supersede US laws.
     
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    What does it gain you Margot when the Syrian people are all aligning behind Assad, and you're presenting a completely different version of events? Do you think that by deceiving the American people that's it's going to altar the facts on the ground in Syria? In which way Margot?

    Do you want war, because I can't see where you're heading otherwise?
     
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    Libya was awash in weapons.. In 2008-9 Gadaffi bought millions of small arms in Europe.. In 2010 he bought $2 billion in arms from Moscow.
     
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    Are you kidding? A half million are dead and 6 million have fled the country.. You think that's vote of confidence? LOLOL
     
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    Many of which were transferred to Islamist extremists in Syria under the "benevolent" watch of the Obama Admin.
     
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    Islamist extremists - Al Qaeda and ISIS took over most of the country - of course people are going to flee.

    It is not Assad who armed Al Qaeda and ISIS - It was your beloved Saud, USA, Qatar and other nation states. The blood of the 500,000 dead is on their heads.
     
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    He's being ridiculous. As long as the Muslims remain within US civil law, then of course they can have inter Muslim arbitration. I'm sure the Orthodox Jews settle their own disputes, and yet remain within Federal and State law. This would be no different then people settling a family dispute among themselves, without outside interference.

    Governments do not have the right to limit people's freedoms - as long as a person is not hindering the freedom of others, or imposing some kind of threat.
     
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    "Freedom"???? What a beautiful demonstration of the complete detachment from reality required to support your views. By any standards, Syria under the Assads has been the antithesis of freedom.
     
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    Ah what treaty are you talking about?
     
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    NPT, Non Proliferation Treaty. The one YOU claim they are abiding by.
     
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    Don't be silly.. Everybody hates ISIS and AQ.

    You think the US caused the drought in Syria or the collapse of their oil industry?
     
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    Apparently there is an endless supply of people who like ISIS.
    After all, they are following the teachings of Muhammed, to the letter.
     
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    No they aren't .. they have bastardized Islam.. They are misfits, drug addicts, drunks illiterates.

    You really don't know anything at all about Muslims or the Middle East.
     
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    They probably don't follow your version, however they follow the documented version, something you have not read.

    In 2014, American and Iraqi intelligence analysts said that al-Baghdadi has a doctorate for Islamic studies in Quranic studies, from Saddam University in Baghdad. According to a biography that circulated on extremist internet forums in July 2013, he obtained a BA, MA, and PhD in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad. Another report says that he earned a doctorate in education from the University of Baghdad.
     
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    They are Islamic fundamentalist. Following a strict, literal interpretation of the Quran and Hadiths. The opposite of a bastardization
     
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    You need to read Muhammeds biography, to better understand why some muslims do what they do.
     
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    The relationship between the teachings of Islam, and current violent Islamism, is similar to the character of the German people, and Nazism.

    That is, it's not entirely irrelevant. German fascism was different from Italian fascism, and the nature of the German people (itself shaped by material conditions and their history) was a big part of the reason for this. However it didn't CAUSE Nazism.

    What we have in the Muslim countries is the failure of these countries to follow either the Europeans or the Orientals onto the path to modernity. We got enough of an educated middle class to supply pretty competent jihadis, to cause a big immigration to where life was better, to make a lot of discontented young men -- something we didn't have fifty years ago -- but not enough of the growth of a modern economy and society to accommodate their aspirations. Islam is a convenient organizing ideology in light of the failure of various sorts of semi-Marxism that we had (Ba'ath Party).

    You have to look at concrete circumstances. The hardcore Zionists committed some disgusting atrocities in their fight for a racially-pure homeland, but it wasn't because of the genocidal passages you can find in the Old Testament.
     

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