The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Kokomojojo, Jun 29, 2018.

  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have seen the Sun too, and I can say there is plenty of evidence that it is not a God

    so your agnostic on if the Sun is a God or not... interesting
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  2. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    First an insult and then off to lick your wounds. Pathetic.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    right, but you still either believe in a God or you don't, until one believes in one of the many God, they still don't believe in any Gods

    Christians for example only disbelieve in one less God then Atheists
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    maybe they are maybe they arent, you have not proven it so I have no reason to believe it
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have no obligation to respond to a post 10 seconds after its posted, I said I will get back to it, nothing like proving beyond a shadow of doubt your arguments are so weak you have nothing.
     
  6. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thanks. You just did!
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    but that is a faulty premise you know.

    theists believe in the 'existence' of God.
    atheists disbelieve in the 'existence' of God.

    theists believe in God x or y or z.
    atheists disbelieve in all God(s).

    you can believe that G/god(s) exist but not believe in any particular God


    Theists are described by the belief Gods exist.
    Atheists are described by the belief no Gods exist.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  8. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are or aren't what? And what is they? Are you claiming that fictional creatures aren't fictional or that they aren't invented.
     
  9. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But then you have to define god.
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not me.

    he has to define God, I pointed out his false premise where he made the mistake of stating believe in God with a conclusion that belief in God is the same as belief in the existence of a God, 2 completely different premises.

    As I said, Once again:

    but that is a faulty premise you know.

    theists believe in the 'existence' of God.
    atheists disbelieve the 'existence' of God.

    theists believe in God x or y or z.
    atheists cannot believe in any God(s) since they do not believe any exist.

    you can believe that G/god(s) exist but not believe in any particular God which is why the only appropriate definition for atheist is one who believes God does not exist.

    please read for comprehension
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  11. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113

    They wrote songs about this you know?

     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  12. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    no,
    Theist believe in a God, Atheist Don't believe in a God
    Stamp collectors collect Stamps, those that

    so you believe God's exist, you just have not decided which one you want to believe in yet, that is not really agnostic

    we know you know the Christian bible as you quote it, so guessing that one is out of the running, hope you find what your looking for some day
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  13. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    but that is not what defines an atheist, what distinguishes an atheist from a theist is theists belief in the 'existence' of God, atheists believe no God exists.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  14. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    your confused, Atheist do not believe in a God, Theist believe in God

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist

    " a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods"

    the minute you believe in a God or God(s) you are a Theist
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  15. Mamasaid

    Mamasaid Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2018
    Messages:
    3,754
    Likes Received:
    1,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That was a pretty lame copout.

    You have been thoroughly refuted. You have repeatedly posted material that you didn't understand, and which undermined your own points.

    Just admit -- like a big boy -- that the thread topic is merely your opinion. We can decide for ourselves that it is horseshit, and we have. It is.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
  16. Mamasaid

    Mamasaid Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2018
    Messages:
    3,754
    Likes Received:
    1,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Haha, exhibit W. This precisely the logic of an atheist. You just can't stop shooting yourself in the foot...that's what being a rabid zealot defending an indefensible idea will do to you....
     
  17. William Rea

    William Rea Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    604
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    An interesting point because, you raise the
    I lack belief, I am an atheist.
     
  18. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    thats why the lacker theory is so ****ed up because neither do I disbelieve in God.

    Ice is H2o therefore all H2o is ice! :brainless:

    atheologists are trying to take a neutral position and force it into atheoville since it can be equally said that I lack disbelief in God and therefore mean the exact opposite that I am a theist at the same time.
    I find that abstract concepts like understanding a neutral position is outside the atheologists ability to comprehend.

    I lack disbelief

    for that matter I lack lack
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2018
  19. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if you do not believe in a God... your an Artiest
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2018
  20. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Neither do I disbelieve, your conclusion is 'made with a 1/2 a deck'.

    Which is as foolish as saying it isnt possible for H2o to be a vapor because its ice right now.
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2018
  21. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you do not believe in a God, that is all it takes to be an Athiest
     
  22. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    according to the neo atheists that not only myself but stanford school pf philosophy as debunked.

    You cant simply use one condition where 2 are required and claim its one. that is a composition fallacy.
     
  23. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    according to the dictionary definition of Atheist, that would make you an Atheist

    your logic is like a Theist that is Christian saying no one else is a theist unless they believe the same as they do, which is not true, a theist is anyone that believe in any god

    likewise if one doesn't believe in a god, they are a Atheist by definition
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2018
  24. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,140
    Likes Received:
    63,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you either believe or you don't, if you believe your a theist, if you don't your an Artiest, saying you might believe in the future doesn't change that
     
  25. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,734
    Likes Received:
    1,793
    Trophy Points:
    113
    way over simplified

    Can you explain what the difference is between the following:

    I believe in God
    I disbelieve in God
    I lack belief in God

    It appears you cant but for the benefit of a doubt.
     

Share This Page