Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting in 2016

Trump is taking a "working" vacation at his resort in Bedminster, New Jersey. He won't return to the White House until mid-August.

Among other matters, what does this mean? It will be at least two more weeks before he answers any questions from reporters. In a month he will have answered two softball questions for reporters.

He is hiding. Why is he hiding?

 

There once was a President who had lost his mind. His comments were strange, almost other worldly, and did not square with current political and national security conditions. The White House was forced to cover for him and his press secretary would often say, "The President all along has said ...," when, in fact, the President has said no such thing.

The President's national security team tried to carry on. Recently, they recognized a threat to our democracy, continued Russian interference in our elections. "We acknowledge the threat. It is real. It is continuing," the DNI said. Our "democracy itself is in the cross-hairs," the DHS secretary said.

That very evening the bewildered President said, "In Helsinki, I had a great meeting with (Russian President Vladimir) Putin. We got along really well," he said. "By the way, that’s a good thing, not a bad thing. Now, we’re being hindered by the Russian hoax — it’s a hoax, ok?" He not only debunked the threat to American democracy, he chose to brag about his enduring friendship with the communist dictator.

The President's national security team is greatly concerned about Russia's cyber warfare capabilities.

The President is not the least bit concerned about Russia's cyber warfare capabilities. He has not designated a White House cyber-coordinator position. The President's friend, Vladimir Putin, is pleased with this decision. It would appear the press conference Thursday featuring the President's national security team was just for show. In the President's fantasy world, the threat does not exist.

"I’ll tell you what, Russia is very unhappy I won, that I can tell you," the spaced-out President said. When Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked if he wanted the President to win the US election, Putin responded, "Yes, I did."

Despite Russia's invasion of Ukraine, illegal annexation of Crimea, support for the murderous Syrian dictator, support for the Iranian regime, and interference in our elections, the confused President said, "Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity."

 

Putin did not tweak our election. Being Russian does not mean one is Putin. Actually Obama spent a lot of time spinning this on it's back like an upside turtle. He told us all that there is no way for Russia to change our election and got all over Trump for suggesting this is possible.

 

You are bringing up a whole bunch of other issues, and much of it has to do with how the Russians interfered in our election and whether Trump was aware of the methods. I don't care.

Look at the title of this thread. Trump knew and approved the meeting with representatives of the Russian government that took place in his home. Trump collaborated with the Russians. That is all I am concerned about. I am not concerned about his awareness of Russian methods.

From the standpoint that Trump committed a crime and the Republicans are protecting him while the Democrats are pursuing him, I guess you can call it partisan. However, the lead investigating agency is the FBI led by a Trump appointee, Republican Chris Wray. In charge of the investigation is another Trump appointee, Republican Rod Rosenstein, working under the A.G., Republican Jeff Sessions. Rosenstein appointed a Republican, Bob Mueller, to head the Russian probe.

So, call it partisan, if you wish. I'm not concerned about that, either.

 

Obama was talking about Trump's accusation that would he have won the popular vote were the election not rigged. Trump claimed that Clinton won the popular vote because of millions of illegal votes.

 

This was by Obama prior to the date of the election, not after. Trump had not won nor lost by that date. Trump could not claim to Obama he would lose due to illegal votes since he did not think he would lose.

Your job is to prove Trump was in on this and so far you can't prove a thing.

 

That is as big a nothing burger as what Trump had for breakfast -- and if that were known you guys would beat the crap out of him for it, too.

 

Trump is forcing Americans to make a choice--support the U.S. Constitution or support him. Many Trump followers' loyalty is totally for Trump; to the point of disrespecting or even discarding the Constitution. Every tyrant in history has had followers like that. Up until Trump, America has somehow managed to avoid it. But Trump is an egomaniac, demanding loyalty to him rather than to the nation or its Constitution. The way he asked Comey for loyalty to him is on record. So is the sickening, sycophantic video showing members of his new cabinet offering lip service of their personal loyalty, servitude & gratitude to him for allowing them to serve him in the Cabinet. When any ruler anywhere demands personal loyalty above loyalty to the nation, tyranny is present. Trump more than passes that test.

 

You've drunk the Trump Cool Aid. He can do no wrong.

 

If this is true, Government knows, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier
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There is clear collaboration. Him turning down deals, that all makes sense, right? It fits right in with what you are saying, "this part of Russia's support for your father."
SO if this is true and I would have to imagine they know its true. Why aren't they telling us?
That's what drives me crazy about this. They're just letting us yell and scream at each other about this dumb ****, and they are sitting on the truth the whole time.

I mean this is some real serious stupidity on Trump's part by the way. Russia sure as **** didn't do him any favors.

 

Unmitigated nonsense. Your pants are in as tight a wad over a president expecting loyalty from his officers as they were over a president meeting with foreign diplomats.

 

No, but you evidently have imbibed on the Trump Derangement soda pop. He can do no right.

 

A nothing burger? That's both funny and pathetic.

We know from the emails from Goldstone that Russia wanted to provide dirt on the Clinton campaign. We know from those emails that the Russian government wanted to help Trump get elected. (See OP)

What we do not know is what transpired during that meeting, although that hardly matters. We do know that the only sources of information regarding the meeting are the high level members of the Trump campaign and anything they say will be self-serving.

There are countless number of lies from Junior, Trump, and Trump's lawyers concerning this meeting. The White House was forced to use damage control on earlier damage control caused by still earlier damage control. It is difficult to believe anything said by Trump, Junior, or the lawyers regarding the meeting with four Russian operatives.

We know the first email regarding that meeting was sent on June 3, 2016. Junior and his cohorts say that the Russians were not forthcoming. We only have their word on that. The Trump Tower meeting took place on June 9, 2016.

However, on June 7, then-candidate Donald Trump teased a major speech in which he’d detail dirt about the Clintons.

“I am going to give a major speech on — probably Monday of next week — and we’re going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons,” Trump said. “I think you’re going to find it very informative, and very, very interesting.”

That would strongly suggest that on June 7, Trump knew about the upcoming meeting with representatives of the Russian government. Knowledge and approval of that meeting would constitute collaboration with a hostile foreign government regardless of the results of the meeting.

Beginning in June, Americans were treated to a blizzard of disclosures from WikiLeaks that lasted for three and half months. WikiLeaks provided the product of Russian hacking of the DNC and Podesta computers. There were several each day, and they were quite damaging to the Clinton campaign while aiding the Trump campaign in a major way.

Despite his praises toward Russia and WikiLeaks during the campaign, Trump would have us believe that was no collaboration on his part. He knew nothing about any of this.

That is a premise that is difficult to accept.

 

I'm just sitting here and trying my best to think of something I could feel Trump has done right since his inauguration, but nothing comes to mind. I've never lived under a President I couldn't agree with on at least something--till Trump. It's not a comfortable feeling. I'd actually feel better if I could find some common ground, but so far, not there.

 

You keep drilling on that dry hole ten ways from Sunday. Your stupidity comes from the fact that, even if most or even some of what you say is true (and much of it is factual) the only crime that might have been committed you being pissed off -- and I cant find the statute for that right off.

 

No, but you evidently have imbibed on the Trump Derangement soda pop. He can do no right.

As I said: good soda pop there.

 

“Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy, it is democracy.” -Walter Cronkite

"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" -Donald J. Trump

Trump told a crowd of veterans "Don't believe the crap you hear from these people -- the fake news. What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."

The President of the United States told a room full of hardened veterans not to believe what the read, hear, and see from the free press.

 

You keep talking, you keep maligning other posters, but you don't say anything.

Where are you from?

 

He expressed his opinion. They cheered. I am sure they will still either believe the news or not believe the news as per their choice.

You called them a room full of hardened veterans. I am not sure why that makes much difference. As a veteran of a foreign war I am eligible to join the VFW. That logic makes me a "hardened veteran". As a "hardened veteran", I don't trust the media.

 

His supporters can't find much, either. That's why they keep asking those of us who write about Trump.

Some use the economy, but Trump has done very little to stimulate the economy, a few EO's to remove much needed regulations. His trade wars will ultimately hurt our economy. The full effect will be felt in a month or two.

They cite the fact that he will appoint two Supreme Court justices. That is not an accomplishment. That is a duty.

His supporters love what he is doing along the border. They are enthusiastic about the separation of families because immigrants are trying to escape from crime and violence in their country.

They make up what a great job he did at Singapore and Helsinki. Their foolish comments cannot stand up to analysis.

That's about it, and they can't defend Trump. Just look at the their posts on this thread. We have made a strong case that Trump collaborated with the Russians. Trump's fans simply ignore the evidence and attack the messenger. .

 

More and more Trump fans are saying that. More and more they are saying his statements and his tweets are mere opinions, and that we should not be concerned them.

When Trump says the free press is the enemy of the people, the Russian probe is just a hoax, Putin is unhappy that he got elected, and he orders the A.G. to stop the rigged witch hunt, all that is just opinion.

I agree with you.

 

I can't find where the ordered the AG to stop the investigation. If you have something different, be sure and let us know. Otherwise it is just some more fake news.

 

Was there a particular reason for this post of yours? Who are you trying to talk to? What are you trying to say?

 

We defend literally ever single day from alt left trolls non stop on this forum. Who the ever loving **** are you even trying to convince with that foolish line? Yourself? I get it. You don’t like trump and you hate and wish harm upon his supporters. But just for shits and giggles could you try to be at least a little bit honest in your rants? This thread alone is filled with people defending trump, yet you still say something so clearly false as “they can’t defend him.” That’s so dumb don’t you agree?

And when have you made a strong case to prove Russian collusion? What evidence? Name one piece. One actual piece of evidence. You and I both know you won’t. You’ll just deflect. But it’s funny calling you alt leftists out on it.

 

Oh look at that. An alt leftists pathetically blaming all their problems in imaginary racism. You NEVEEEEEERRRRR see that. Like.... ever. You’re totally right though. Obama was perfect and infallible in every way and he never did even a single slightly bad thing. The only possible way anyone might have a problem with him was if they were evil inhuman racists and you should be free to harm them for daring to criticize your Dear Leader, correct?