Yup, Team Trump is guilty of collussion

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  1. Borat

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    LOL, poor libs are reduced to literally making up total nonsense and non-existent laws. TDS gets worse and worse. :D

    Oh... quote with word "RECEIVE" please.
     
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    Federal law is very specific.

    when they say receive, they mean it.

    It means purchased, bartered for, or donated.
     
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    LOL, poor delusional libs making up total nonsense and non-existent laws which they fail to quote. There is no word "Receive" in any relevant law because it's entirely legal and your failure to prove your nonsense with a quote is actually hilarious.
     
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    So . . . Hillary Clinton IS going to be prosecuted over Fusion GPS and Steele and her collusion with the Russians? Sweet!
     
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    You can't be guilty of violating Federal election laws if you didn't know you were receiving something of value from a foreigner. Certainly if you didn't solicite it.
     
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    (a)Prohibition

    It shall be unlawful for—
    foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—

    (A)
    a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election

    (2)
    a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
     
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    So when you said campaigns can receive nothing, that was utter fabrication. Figures. As you see the law is very specific, receiving a contribution or donation is illegal, buying, receiving a purchase is not illegal which makes it perfectly legal. Thanks.
     
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    it illegal for a foreigner to provide ANYTHING of value to a Federal political campaign.

    It shall be unlawful for—
    foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—

    (A)
    a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election
     
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    So when you said campaigns can receive nothing, that was utter fabrication. Figures. As you see the law is very specific, receiving a contribution or donation is illegal, buying, receiving a purchase is not illegal which makes it perfectly legal. Thanks.
     
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    Federal, State and local election campaigns can receive NOTHING of value from a foreigner.

    its illegal.
     
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    it's blatant spin, the meeting absolutely was a conspiracy with a foreign government...changing it to collusion is the lawyers way of trying to shape the story for public consumption...the same way a defense lawyer might characterize a death as a tragic accident rather than homicide...

    that it hasn't as yet been proved as successful is irrelevant, conspiracy to commit a crime is a still a crime...I know of someone who went to prison for conspiring to commit murder even though there was never a murder...I imagine his lawyer never bothered never tried to fool the judge that it was collusion and not a conspiracy...
     
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    Gasp! She handed over eleven million dollars without knowing who was giving her the information? Isn't that sort of the same sort of stupidity with her unsecured server? Even though she was trained to know what was and was not violations of national security she was too STUPID to understand what she had to sign off on? Why did leftists WANT to put a Democratic Leader that stupid or that careless into the Oval Office?
     
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    She hired Fusion GPS.

    She paid Fusion GPS.

    Its not her responsibility to know every sub-contractor that they hire and fire.
     
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    Hahahaha! Yes . . . it . . . is. If Trump is to blame for everything that happened around him no matter what then Hillary is also to blame.
     
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    if you can prove that Hillary knew Fusion GPS hired a foreigner to dig up dirt on Trump, you might have a case.
     
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    You have to prove that to get a conviction.

    Perhaps Russia merely thought global nuclear war was less likely with Trump in office than Clinton. Whether they were right or not is immaterial to the fact that that would be ample justification to provide the information free of charge, which would negate the hole thing having been illegal, which is probably the argument they'll use to avoid a conviction unless Mueller has an ace up his sleeve proving Trump offered the Russians something of value for the Hillary dirt.
     
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    Ditto to you and all your assumptions regarding Trump. Show us the proof of wrongdoing that warrants Trump being indicted or explain to us why he will never be indicted no matter how loudly and often leftists HOWL . . . collusion.
     
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    What about Bill and Hillary taking millions from the Russians for our uranium, now that is collusion.
     
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    right now im talking about Manafort, Kushner and Trump Jr.,

    they were at the meeting
     
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    You mean like Hillary met with Fusion GPS and Steele and the Russians?
     
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    Hillary NEVER met with Steele.

    Not once, not ever.

    She didn't even know he was a sub contractor for Fusion GPS
     
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    P-r-o-v-e it.
     
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    you have the burden of proof since YOU are making the claim.

    thats how a court of law works.

    Prosecution has the burden of proof.

    now, prove that Hillary met with Steele.

    or at least prove that Hillary KNEW that Steele, a foreigner, was providing info to Fusion GPS.
     
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    That doesn't even make sense.

    I'm no fan of Trump but your argument is meandering at best
     
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    they were the ones at the TT meeting, so they committed the crime
     
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