A two part question for those considering Socialism

Bush invaded Saddam and his merry men, and the terrorists Saddam supported, in a War Against Terror, not Iraq the country or its people.

 

What on earth are you talking about? The number of documented civilian deaths in the Iraq war peaked in 2006 at 29 thousand casualties.

 

I'll add that to all the other excuses I've heard.

 

Iraqi Civilians | Costs of War - Watson Institute for ...

No one knows with certainty how many people have been killed and wounded in Iraq since the 2003 United States invasion.

However, we know that approximately 165,000 civilians have died from direct war related violence caused by the US, its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through April 2015.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

 

If the Earth were the size of a basketball, the thickness of the atmosphere could be modeled by a thin sheet of plastic wrapped around the ball.
The atmosphere is not uniform; fluid properties are constantly changing with time and location. We call this change the weather.

 

And you may blame Saddam and the terrorists for every one of them.

 

You got that right. The jobs are leaving on a Jet plane won't be coming back again. However, American output has increased while jobs have decreased.

 

I’m just going by your arguments. You’ve made it clear socialism doesn’t exist. I don’t think you meant to do that so now you’re backtracking. Too late.

 

Iraq was no threat to the neighbors and the country was crippled by 2 decades of war and sanctions.. You actually don't know anything about Iraq, do you?

I knew before the invasion that it was going to be a long, disastrous, expensive mess and that Iran could emerge ascendant.

Remember when they claimed Iraq was trucking its WMDs back and forth between Sudan and Syria?

Bush should have listened to Bandar and the Saudis and the Emirates, the Europeans, the oilmen , the diplomats and the historians..

Have you read the history of the British in Iraq?

 

You do that. Enjoy.

 

Schools and Hollywood teach children lies about the environment. “Humans are ‘killing’ the planet,” they say, but the planet is not alive. It is a large rock with a layer of water, air and dirt. If you shrunk the planet down to a sphere 2.4 meters wide, it would fit into your bedroom, from floor to ceiling. See the math for this below.

If a person put their nose right up to the sphere, they wouldn’t be able to see humans on its surface, even with a very powerful optical microscope. On that scale humans would the .32 microns tall, which is a little bigger than a virus, and about 6.2 times smaller than an E. Coli bacterium. The earth’s vegetation would just be a smudge. It would be like crouching on the top of Australia’s Ayer’s Rock, or Uluru, in the wet season, looking at some green mold on its surface.

Imagine how silly you’d look if you called a geologist to come see the “destruction” of this planet. You’d say, “Here, put your nose up against the surface. See any humans?”
“No,” the geologist would reply. “Not a soul.”
“Well they’re there,” you’d insist, “and they’re destroying the planet.”
“Destroying it?” he’d say, looking at the jewel-like Earth. “It looks fine to me.”
“Well, um,” you’d say, “it might look fine, but it’s dying.”
“Dying?” the geologist would laugh. “It’s not alive. It’s a ball of dirt!”
“Okay, well it may not be alive,” you’d admit, “but, er, those microscopic things are destroying it!”
“Come back when you can actually see some destruction, okay?” the geologist would say, rolling his eyes and walking out. “And please, don’t disturb me again unless you have a real problem…”

The truth is that our planet is perfectly fine. It can’t die because it isn’t a living organism. Whatever damage we virus-sized humans have done is so insignificant as to not even be worth mentioning. Sure, China needs to clean up its filthy factories, and ironically the environmentalists don’t mention that because most of them are communists.

Math for this:

[The Earth’s diameter is 12734.889 kilometers, or 7913.0934 miles. 12734.889 kilometers divided by 2.4 meters is (5.31 x 10 to the power of 6). The average height of humans is 1.7 meters or 5’7”.

1.7 meters divided by (5.31 x 10 to the power of 6) equals 0.3202 microns, or about 1.5 times the length of a measles virus, and about 6.2 times smaller than an E. Coli bacterium.]

 

Jobs move around. How is that any skin off your nose? Any problems that exist can always be traced back to governments, which is why it's best to leave business the hell alone.

 

Translator - find a translator.

 

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Published on Sep 9, 2015

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You probably think planet Earth is alive, since that is what schools and Hollywood have been teaching us for some decades now. “Humans are ‘killing’ the planet,” they say, but the planet is not alive. It is a large rock with a thin layer of water, air and dirt. A thin film of life exists on it too. If you shrunk the planet down to a sphere 2.4 meters, or 7 feet, 10 and a half inches, wide, it would fit into your bedroom, from floor to ceiling. See the math for this in the description below. If a person put their nose right up to the sphere, they wouldn’t be able to see humans on its surface, even with a very powerful optical microscope. On that scale humans would the .32 microns tall, which is a little bigger than a virus, and about 6.2 times smaller than an E. Coli bacterium. The earth’s vegetation would just be a smudge. It would be like crouching on the top of Australia’s Ayer’s Rock, or Uluru, in the wet season, looking at some green mold on its surface. Imagine how silly you’d look if you called a geologist to come see the “destruction” of this planet. You’d say, “Here, put your nose up against the surface. See any humans?” “No,” the geologist would reply. “Not a soul.” “Well they’re there,” you’d insist, “and they’re destroying the planet.” “Destroying it?” he’d say, looking at the jewel-like Earth. “It looks fine to me.” “Well, um,” you’d say, “it might look fine, but it’s dying.” “Dying?” the geologist would laugh. “It’s not alive. It’s a ball of dirt!” “Okay, well it may not be alive,” you’d admit, “but, er, those microscopic things are destroying it!” “Come back when you can actually see some destruction, okay?” the geologist would say, rolling his eyes and walking out. “And please, don’t disturb me again unless you have a real problem…” So the truth is that our planet is perfectly fine. It can’t die because it isn’t a living organism, and as far as planets go, it is a beautiful, precious jewel. It’s about as perfect as it could be, for sustaining life, and whatever damage we virus-sized humans have done is so insignificant as to not even be worth mentioning. Sure, China needs to clean up its filthy factories, and ironically the environmentalists don’t mention that because most of them are communists.

 

Exactly, dey leavin. Dey done left. Personbly, dey is no skin off my nose but my fellow Americans are really suffering. People are fricking dying for lack of shelter and food.

According to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, more than 5,000 of the county's 58,000 homeless people are children and more than 4,000 are elderly. About one-third are mentally ill.

In my neck of the woods. https://www.ocregister.com/2018/01/...2017-was-the-second-deadliest-year-on-record/

 

The War on Terror, also known as the Global War on Terrorism, is an international military campaign that was launched by the United States government after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against the United States.
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George Bush stated, "Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror

The “and every government that supports them” is all you need to concentrate on.

 

LOLOL.. There were NO state actors in 9-11 and Bush knew it... and Saddam Hussein had NOTHING to do with 9-11.

 

Thanks for the publicity. I put up a few vids - and may put up more when I have time. In this one I predicted Trump's win. I stopped bothering after YouTube censored my vid about Hitler being a socialist. What's the point of doing it if you're going to be shadow-banned?

 

Businesses will close down or leave when taxes are too high, or there is too much red or green tape. That's what Democrats do. Trump entered politics to put an end to those problems, which is why business is returning.

 

The “and every government that supports them” is all you need to concentrate on.

 

That was the lie... Iraq's oil sector was in terrible shape.. so bad and so in need of updates and repairs that many of their reserves were on the verge of being lost.. Didn't you smell a rat when they said Iraqi oil would pay for the war?? Only an idiot would have said such a thing.. The oil business HATES a war zone.

 

On the contrary they should have indeed used the oil to fund the war. Oil is oil as far as consumers are concerned. Why should taxpayers foot the bill to fix Iraq, when their oil can pay the way? Trump knows that, and will certainly use common-sense in that regard. Bush was not vague about attacking anyone that protected or helped terrorists, and terrorists have been fighting viciously in Iraq ever since. Bush picked a place rich in terrorists to conduct his War on Terror. Lefties are still whining about WMD, but it wasn't a War on WMD. It was a WAR ON TERROR.

 

Are you now backtracking? I expected you to stick to your guns better than that.

 

The oil business HATES a war zone.. Don't you get that? Five years after Bush declared mission accomplished Iraqi oil was still barely limping along and I stopped counting at 600 sabotage events.

There were NO terrorists in Iraq.

 

There have been hundreds of thousands of religions, beliefs, cults and ideologies in human history, and many were unproductive and more damaging than good. The one area that yielded great results was science, and it was despised by most of the aforementioned religions and cults. Socialism is just one more cult to add to the mountain of others. Like many of them it doesn’t work. Once Socialists get into power one of the first myths they espouse (a level playing field) is soon seen through.

Scene: Soviet Russia. Ivan and Egor sit in their mother’s apartment during her birthday.

Ivan: So Egor, how have you been?
Egor: I’m okay. How about you?
Ivan: Okay I suppose, for someone on 10 rubles a week.
Egor: Ten rubles? You’re joking aren’t you?
Ivan: No, isn’t that what everyone gets?
Egor: I make 150 rubles a week.
Ivan: How?
Egor: I am an inspector of factories. The managers bribe me to put in a good report for them.
Ivan: Huh?
Egor: Look, I go to a rubber boot factory. Their quota is to make 1000 pairs of boots a week. Yet they only made 200. I ask why. They say it’s because the rubber wasn’t delivered. Why wasn’t the rubber delivered? Because the idiot in the rubber factory forgot to send it. Why? Because he only earns 10 rubles a week, and he’s not really concerned. So he forgot. So now the boot factory has to wait another week. So they only made 200 boots.
Ivan: And?
Egor: And so the manager doesn’t want to be punished for this, and I sympathize, but I tell him I have to put someone in my report because I have a quota too. If I go back with nobody on my list I will be punished. So he offers me a bribe. I take the bribe, and find someone else to put on my list.
Ivan: But that’s cheating.
Egor: Ivan, do you want the man to go to jail? What about his wife and kids?
Ivan: Yeah, I guess so…
Egor: So this is why I make 150 rubles a week.
Ivan: But that’s unfair. I only make 10.
Egor: I know. [shrugs] What can you do?

Socialism is doomed from the first day.

What saves it?

The black market (illegal invisible capitalism).

How big is it?

Huge.

How huge?

Enormous, but the Socialists like to pretend it doesn’t exist.

Without the black market the whole system would collapse in a couple of years. With the black market you can stretch the clanking, shuddering mess called Socialism on for who knows? Seventy years? When it crashes the country won’t just revert to instant capitalism and joy. It will take decades to repair. It may never be the same again.