The US was once a leader for healthcare and education — now it ranks 27th in the world

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and revolutions of the starving proletariat are routine.
     
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    Do it.
     
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    Red states suffer from the same liberal educators that other states have
     
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    It is not reps, it is the rich med care industry. Obama gave you socialized med, you saw how that turned out. It took the reps to fix it.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    damn they are everywhere screwing everything up for you good ol; boys.

    Dumber and sicker and putting up with them damn libs doin' it to you every which way including sunday.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really believe the ACA was socialized medicine? Forcing people to buy an inflated insurance through private companies to pay another private company with inflated profits is not socialism.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a resident of a deep red state I assure you our education here is not run by liberals. Everything isn’t a conspiracy
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Percentage wise, are they suffering more or less immigration?
     
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    Health insurance like everything in our capitalist system is rigged,insurers divvy up the country so as not to cross compete.One only has to look at the opulent multi acre'd campus style settings of most health insurance company home offices to realize the profits they know they can rely upon each year.Our politicians allow them to exist in what really amounts to a non competitive environment.
     
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    Oh yes, its largely run by liberals everywhere because teachers and admin all come from the same liberal education puppy mills
     
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    Always have an excuse don't ya? Party of personal responsibility my ass.
     
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    Fact: We had the best health care system in the world. But the more we inject government into the equation, the more we slide in the rankings.

    Of course, it doesn't help that we have 12 to 25 million illegals here which drags down our statistics. Other countries don't have to deal with that problem.
     
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    Trump is working on this with other countries.

    Other countries have limits on what the drug companies can charge. We don't have limits, so Americans are subsidizing the cost of drugs worldwide. The answer to this is not American price controls because that would stop all future research and development. The answer is for other countries to lift their price controls so Americans aren't stuck with the tab and R&D can continue.
     
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    Duplicate
     
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    Insurers don't "divvy up the country". How stupid. They're barred from competing across state lines by the Democratic Party.

    Republicans want to open up cross-state competition and the Democrats are against it.
     
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    Sounds vague and jingoistic
     
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    Please source your “fact”.
    Also in your “fact” source how many other nations had even basic healthcare. When you are the only or one of the only first world nations of course it’s going to be the best.

    Other nations do have to deal with illegal immigration
     
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    Now, I am now constitutional scholar, but how does a political party bar interstate health insurance policies?
     
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    Yeah it will never happen
     
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    The US was once a leader for healthcare and education — now it ranks 27th in the world

    Was it?
     
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    Percentage wise?

    Less.

    But how much do you think it costs to provide health care for 29 million people, and how much does that impact the ability to provide it?
     
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    That number is hilariously wrong
     
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    Sooo you would be happy with unregulated pharmacy? Really?

    Thalidomide
    Rofedoxib(vioxx)
    And a whole host of other medications
    https://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/DrugRecalls/default.htm
     
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    Thalidomide is still used today, what’s your point? Actually quite an effective medication for cancer treatments and leprosy.

    What about penicillin? Guess what never would have been discovered in a “regulated” laboratory.
     

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