Keith Ellison abuse claim unsubstantiated, attorney concludes

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  1. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'What people do in their private lives has no bearing on their ability to do The People's business'

    -- The Left, on or about July, 1998, within hours of the appearance of The Blue Dress.
    tomato tomahto
     
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    Innocent until proven guilty fits everyone's political advantage.

    But comparing Ford to Ellison's girl friend: Ford does not know when or where her claims took place, has no witnesses about something that took place in HS somewhere around 36 years ago at a party where supposedly many people attended. Ellison's girl friend knows when and where (only two years ago) she was physically abused, and apparently there are contemporaneous police and medical records backing her up and apparently she told friends about the incident.

    Which lady has the more credible claim?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what many righties are saying about Trump. The irony.
     
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    The political advantage of smearing a congressman NOT SEEKING re-election? Or shall we all PRETEND that a republican covet the Minnesota AG seat held by democrats for 40 years?
     
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    You must be kidding.

    Ellison is a black radical moslem that has a history with Farrakhan. How much more protection could he possibly need?

    Truth means nothing to liberals. If you don't understand that by now you're brainwashed beyond repair.
     
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    I've come to the conclusion after perusing Twitter for hours that you take democrats or those that take democrats seriously, seriously.
     
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    Oh I do get it. I just like to point it out.
     
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    He's also a muslim, so its another set of rules besides the typical democrat rules of letting a woman die in your car set. He can torture her for years before killing her because that's his culture.
     
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    Oh wow, i didnt realize that. Give the man a new car, he is untouchable. Nothing to see here . Move along , too bad he is not white there might havemeen a chance.
     
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    Really??? Never been in a boy's locker room? Then, what does Trump's locker room talk have to do with cavorting with a prostitute???

    I said committing sexual assault (by Clinton) and manslaughter (by Ted Kennedy); neither were tried nor convicted in a court of law.
     
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    Then what is the purpose of this OP thread title?
     
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    If he were running for reelection, no doubt the right would be going all in as if he were Al Franken.
    Face it, both parties smear whomever they can whenever they can. I don't need to hear fake excuses for 1 party over the other.
    8 yrs of partisan investigations on Clinton. No one on the right has any business complaining about the left doing the same political BS.
     
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    When a person comes forth with an accusation, with no evidence other than a vague recollection, and has inconsistencies in their telling of their story, I couldn't care what their political lean is, I will withhold support until there is the proof of what they are saying.

    Eillson's accuser has medical records, times and places. I would tend to believe their is some substance to the accusations.
     
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    Well you have to think, more mentally ill people live on this planet now than ever before, and they all vote for the same dreamworld policies and actions.

    It makes me look around and say, “Maybe Hitler was right about sterilization”.
     
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    If you don't believe men brag about things they haven't done, then you haven't talked to a guy recently. Trump is crass, no doubt about that.

    You do know they didn't go after Clinton for what he he did with Monica, they went after him for lying under oath about an event that happened while he was President.
     
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    And someone is looking at you, with the same thought.
     
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    I've been in a locker room. I've never bragged about doing some type of assault. For I've never done some type of assault. Basically, I don't really have no need for lying.
     
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    That's why there was a hearing. Found to be likely credible at the hearing, which led to an investigation.

    The only thing I know about the Ellison case is what is written in the OP.
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    Yep, 8 yrs of continuous investigations. And they caught him in a slip up/lie.
    Maybe this Kavenaugh thing is similar. But I claim both sides do it. And there is proof both sides do it.
    So for one side to complain about the other is pure BS partisan hypocrisy.
     
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    "Credible' by the judgement of one political party, who was using the alleged victim for political gain. If you judge something 'credible' based on what Ford presented, I could be judged credible for a number of things that didn't happen, that I have proof they did. ;)

    Then perhaps you should form your own opinion by doing further research on the subject, since obviously, the claim IS substantiated by medical records, dates and places.
     
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    Slip up? "I did not have sex with that woman' is pretty straight forward.

    Ford is NOT credible, and I find it ridiculous that the Republicans humored the Democrats with a 7th investigation.

    That all being said, I am not pro on Kavanaugh, I'm just tired of the Democrats and the constant BS, and the Republicans who can't seem the get their heads out of their behinds.
     
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    Yeah, Genetic defuncts usually do, i deal with junkies every day so no surprise.
     
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    Ford was given every opportunity to speak her case and present her evidence and have it be judged in public. The Democrats said she has a vagina therefore what she asserts is true.

    So why is it different here?
     
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    Ellison, unlike Ryan, is running for attorney general in the state of MN. There are multiple accusations against Ellison and a 911 call to back them up. They go back to 2005 which is TWENTY YEARS LATER than the unsubstantiated claims against Kavanaugh that the democrats are so fervent in investigating.
     
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    Many conservatives and republicans have consistently said that Ford is credible and should be heard, which she was. It isn't their fault she can't offer anything to support her claim and her story is so full of holes. In the end it is her word against Kavanaugh's and every witness she has named.
     
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