A Question For Trump Supporters

Car insurance IS mandatory. That is a true statement. My bad was assuming you understood I was talking about people who have cars. Otherwise, why would someone need car insurance? Duh. For anyone who has an automobile, car insurance is mandatory. Does it upset you that you are forced to have car insurance for your automobile?
Nope, didn’t move any goalposts. I stated in my original post that it’s Spooky’s own fault for not having health insurance. She has it within her power to not be fined. She CHOSE to go the route of being fined. Again, are you capable of not being disingenuous? So far it doesn’t seem so.

 

ok, let me break it down using very simple english that even you can understand...

car yes? must purchase liability insurance to operate on public roads.

car no? no need to purchase any insurance of any kind related to automobiles.

as it is not mandatory to operate a motor vehicle on public roads, it is not mandatory to buy car insurance as you falsely claimed.

car yes? you must purchase health insurance in compliance with the aca or face stiff penalities imposed by dear leader obama. health insurance is mandatory.

car no? you must purchase health insurance in compliance with the aca or face stiff penalities imposed by dear leader obama. health insurance is mandatory.

to review: car insurance voluntary; health insurance mandatory.

if after that you still cannot see the difference between mandatory and voluntary and refuse to acknowledge the phony conflation you pathetically attempted between the two, i’m sorry i can’t help you.

and of course you moved the goalposts. yes, it is spooky’s fault for not having health insurance. but it is obama’s fault for imposing a fine on citizens who do not purchase health insurance, which is a total abuse if government power. and that is the point, not whether spooky has health insurance or not. please stop being disingenuous by pretending otherwise.

 

Although I do support Trump, I'm not a big fan of the "MAGA" slogan because I feel America has always been great. But the Trump administration policies have made improvements.

The biggest improvement being the economy. The booming economy brings more jobs, increased wages, increased property values, skyrocketing IRA values - all of which have impacted me personally. Plus the tax breaks (crumbs as Pelosi calls them) have improved my income.

 

I agree with you that auto insurance is not mandatory due to if you don't drive a car that you own you don't have to buy it.

But Obama care wasn't mandatory, you could not get health insurance and pay the fine - which for many the fine was much cheaper.

That said, there was never a fine for not having auto insurance if you didn't own & drive a car. So I give you, although Obama care wasn't mandatory, it sure felt like it!

 

It IS mandatory to buy car insurance if one has an auto. Again, my bad for giving you too much credit to understand I was referring to people who have cars. Again, because why would someone without a car buy car insurance? Duh.
Does it upset you that you’re forced to buy car insurance?
So that’s a no regarding your ability to not be disingenuous.

 

So that's the GOP idea of healthcare?

Suicide?

 

Iranians?

Where did that come from.

Yes we will and should send money to the Palestinians. Why would we send money to only one side (the most powerful and militant) in that area?

 

Just curious, what enemies are you referring to?

 

North Korea China Iran the palestinians'

 

Trump has broken that record

 

No, we give them jobs so they don't need aid.

Handouts have never fixed a single problem.

 

And do you worry about the massive deficit increase?

 

Makes you wonder why so many people are driving around without insurance then.

https://www.autoinsurance.org/how-many-drivers-dont-have-auto-insurance/

 

Well your portfolio increase is the only one that actually effects you. And good you have a portfolio because most Americans don't have any significant stock investments. That said we have all been in high clover if we sold before the Bush disaster and bet heavily when Obama took over.

 

Took a bit, but I finally got the "sock" reference. Yes I am new, but you have me mistaken. I am the first one to admit that President Trump is an Arrogant narcissistic A$$hat. I am also the first one to state that he is head and shoulders a better person and better president than Hillary. She is evil personified IMO. People that somehow expect President Trump to magically become an astute politician and polished statesman just because he was elected are delusional. Hatred toward the one what toppled your dream castle is normal, but it also blinds one to ANY positivity whatsoever. People don't even come close to realizing how our country and the whole world really, would've changed had Hillary Clinton won the presidency. It is my hope that someday, she and quite a few others will be brought to justice. It will take some doing because the layers of protection for their nastiness are thick and hardened.
This of course is just one old mans opinion, and I could be wrong about the whole damn thing. Just as we did for the most part for 8 years of Obama, if Hillary Clinton WERE elected instead of Trump, you would not see violence or resistance from true conservatives IMO. The democrats have so much on their side. Numbers, Hatred, Puppets, Political Thugs, Billionaire Puppet Masters, A 100% free and willing propaganda machine and strong political cover mechanism in the MSM, Hordes of Angry Women who have been led to believe their right to legally murder their offspring will be stripped away from them, ALL gender equality groups of any kind, ALL monetizing Race Baiter Groups, hysterical left-wing professors and educators, scared and manipulated immigrants, Left Wing Metro Mayors galore......... and....they STILL can't construct a decent agenda that shows a clear path to bettering our country. The good people of this country are reaching a critical point where their patience, and tolerance of a radical left wing democrat party will simply be used up.

 

you claimed living is not voluntary. i was simply correcting you.

now kindly answer my other question. thank you.

 

if you have a retirement plan or a pension at work, you are in the stock market. that’s hundreds of millions of people.

 

distinction without a difference. to mandate means to require. imposing a penalty for noncompliance is absolutely a mandate.

you will do x, or you will be penalized.

mandatory means “required by law.” it is absolutely “required by law” that you have health insurance. unless you are an illegal alien, in which case your health care is free... along with your cadillac.

 

The "individual mandate" was passed into law as a tax.

Are taxes optional?

 

As far as I know, we've sent no money to N Korea since the armistice in 1953, to speak of. China is one of our largest and most sought after trading partners. As far as I know Iran gets no money from the U.S. either--not since the Islamic Revolution of 1979 anyway. And we gave money to the Palestinians because we wanted them to know we supported a two-state solution between them & Israel. Trump has changed that to support Israel only against the Palestinians, which I think is a mistake.

 

Sorry fella, but most of the jobs created by the Trump administration are minimal pay--not living wages. That doesn't solve the need of aid problem. Handouts aren't designed to fix problems. They're designed to help with survival until the ones receiving it can work out a way to solve the problems themselves. It's called "helping others"--something a lot of conservatives seem to have either forgotten how to do, or simply never learned to value.

 

Yeah?

Let's see you back that nonsense up.

Go ahead and start with the manufacturing jobs Obama said we'd need a magic wand for.

The US welfare system is not, and has never been, designed to "work out a way to solve the problems themselves."

Once you're on welfare, you're staying on it.

 

The U.S. Welfare system accounts for about 0.5% of our national budget. Why do you conservatives spill so much venom and waste so much energy attacking those who account for only 0.5% of our budget? Why don't you attack useless military expenditures that account for far higher percentages of our budget? Or, how about demanding an accounting on the huge black ops expenditures that no one seems to have any oversight on? Or, how about the excessive travel costs of our new President and/or his billionaire friends? You just enjoy picking on the poor and depraved and sickly because they don't have any way to fight back?

 

Small thinker.

My portfolio grows because I have one, and I have one because I worked hard and worked smart to build it. Trump revitalized the hope of the American economy- and that kicked the market and my portfolio into overdrive. Part of that is the return of off-shore companies.

The business income I refer to is MY business. It is benefiting me and my family.

It doesn't matter what we tell you, the only thing you can respond with is "tis not!" like little kids who think insisting on something makes it so. That is your problem however, not mine.

 

So it is not about the country, the people or the ideals but about "winning"