"Pence claims 'it's inconceivable' there aren't Middle Easterners in caravan"

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    "Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday endorsed President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claim that a migrant caravan approaching the U.S. southern border includes "Middle Easterners"

    "No evidence exists for Trump and Pence's claims about Middle Easterners in the caravan"

    "As Pence defended Trump's comment he stated: "In the last fiscal year, we apprehended more than 10 terrorists or suspected terrorists per day at our southern border from countries that are referred to in the lexicon as ‘other than Mexico’."

    "That," Pence added, "means from the Middle East region."

    "Asked for data supporting Pence's claim, a DHS spokeswoman said that U.S. Customs and Border Protection has prevented "10 known or suspected terrorists from traveling to or entering the United States every day in fiscal year 2017" using land, air, or sea-based modes of transport — not strictly the southern border."

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/23/pence-caravan-middle-easterners-933657

    Appears now we have both a President and Vice President who have a hard time telling the truth, although you'd have to believe Pence was given his marching orders and what to say directly from the White House

    Few facts, but a lot of fabrication to spread fear and anxiety for political ends, and to think parents make it a priority to teach their children that lying isn't acceptable
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's basically the God debate.

    It can't be proven there are no middle easterners in that caravan.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Honduran president just recently told Pence there were 'Middle Easterners' in the mob, they even arrested 100 of them. Is the Honduran president a liar?
     
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    No one can disprove that which has yet to be proven, but usually what is known takes precedent over that which remains a possibility
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    No, but the "judicial watch" innuendo repeatingly regurgitated is framed and irrelevant

    "The Judicial Watch article conflated two separate news stories, with the effect of leaving some readers with the impression that people with links to the Islamic State (ISIS) terrorist organization were potentially traveling with a migrant caravan toward the southern U.S. border."

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/isis-terrorists-guatemala-caravan/
     
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    So it's now a fact that 100 ISIS terrorists were captured. What's not known is if any of them weren't captured and are now part of the northward bound mob.
     
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    It's kind of inconceivable that they caught every one of them.
     
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    If your job is to provide national security shouldn’t you plan for all contingencies? Known and unknown
     
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    I love the absolute obsession the media gets with this administration.

    They will send 10 people to "fact check" an off the cuff statement, where in the Obama administration you would hear about some incredibly huge incidents that had zero checks upon it.

    Thankfully, the last decade has done horrible damage to modern day media. I look forward to the day when they are basically irrelevant.
     
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    How can this be true? You guys were just telling us a few weeks ago that Trump destroyed and ended ISIS.
     
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    Technically speaking inconceivable is probably the wrong word but why would anyone quibble about the verbiage? Yes there’s no evidence that there is terrorists in the group of civilians but why would anyone not be aware of the possibility? Just look through history like for example Vietnamese soldiers hiding in the civilian population. It’s pretty well known tatic in gorilla warfare. I would hope the people in charge of national security would err on the side of caution
     
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    Are they carrying Ebola in their backpacks as well? Because the pinheads, nitwits and numb-nuts would believe that too.
     
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    No, that was screwy Louie, it didn't sell when he was promoting it, came right after his terrorist babies pitch
     
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    It also cannot be proven that there are.
     
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    Wow exactly 100 of them. What type of of ME were they ? Did they Walk Like An Egyptian?
     
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    Is it possible, yes, just as there could be bearded ladies and anatomical wonders, but the probability is slim, too slim to repeat it as a fact, nor purposely demogogue to instill fear and anxiety
     
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    That claim has been debunked at least half dozen times even withing this tread, but they keep regurgitating it
     
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    ME terrorists would find a more efficient route into the US. What is Mohammad going to do pass himself off as Menendez? Jabar as Juarez? Hussein as Hernandez? Come people be at a bit serious.
     
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    The Eunach Pence will do, say, or fart out anything that his master tells him to. That is what that Balless Wonder does.
     
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    Again I think the word inconceivable is probably the wrong word to use. With that said wouldn’t you want the people in charge of national security to err on the side of caution?
     
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    Again I’m not disputing that but if your job was to be in charge of security wouldn’t you plan for all contingencies? In potential national security issues isn’t it better to err on the side of caution?
     
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    Pence?

    What a Blithering IDIOT.

    Only a complete MORON (like Pence), who had no political future, would've hitched up with the Trump Trainwreck.

    The Caravan? :roflol:

    Pence? What an IDIOT!:bored:
     
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    Contingency? Yes. Middle Eastern walking from Guatemala to Tijuana in a caravan? No.
     
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    Assuming that there are ME 's in the Walking Dead horde how and why would security be any different ? How will we identify Hussein from Hernandez? Will the ME's have sign on them that read " Potentional Terrorist Ahmad Here". Are we not going to protect our border whether or not there are ME's in the mix?
     
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    What's worse, or perhaps laughable, is those "factcheck" operations are mostly operated by liberal organizations.

    Most notorious is PolitiFact, with others not far behind.
     
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