4 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue

Yeah; I think it needs to be reserved for VERY special cases.

Like this one.

 

The majority of 911 attackers were Saudis, a stark fact. Look up Wahhabism and where it originated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

 

Just another f***ing day in America.

 

Where ? Be more precise already.
I got chores to do.

 

The media is a propaganda outlet. It hasn't spoken truth in a while. In fact, I'm stunned that NBC News wanted to withhold information on the killer's name until it could be confirmed. That's the kind of legitimate reporting we hadn't seen in years.

It means that when Trump does say something 'horrible', it should be put in context. Especially if it's only 'horrible' in lieu of your political opinions. That means it's subjectively horrible. For example, Trump's stating that these places of worship/vulnerable places like hospitals should be armed. Horrible to you, but even if we passed the strictest gun laws ever we couldn't remove every gun ever from the US Mainland.

So vested security people protecting the lives of the innocent is a reasonable measure.

 

Agreed, yes, the Biblical/Qur'anic teachings of sheer hatred for Jews needs to stop!
The hate is so strong, so powerful, that the books teach that the poor Jews are not allowed into "heaven/Paradise", but rather are, in almost as bad of a fashion as Hitler's death-camps, brutally and savagely tortured forever in "hellfire".

Barbaric. Disgusting. A terrible role model. It sickens me. Pittsburgh is the result of this teaching of hatred.
I love Jews (and Christians, and Muslims, and Hindus, etc.) - that's the Modern Secular Humanist way - no "Jews get sent to hell".

Too bad God doesn't love Jews as much as I do or he'd say "ok, look, I've screwed up, I'm reversing my policy and finally letting ethical Jews into heaven and avoiding brutal torture in hell - please forgive me." I'd forgive him, because I'm more forgiving than Jesus is. Even gods make mistakes (like approving of slavery in the Bible/Qur'an.)

 

That's one of the reasons I like this forum because it's one of the few places on the internet dissenting voices can be heard which is why I take an active position here.

Anywhere else I would be banned on the spot, so in that regard this forum is unique.

I also like how this forum has people from a variety of political beliefs and walks of life coming together in conversation from around the world, if the real world acted much like this forum does on the internet I think it would be a better place.

 

No green apples are red. They're green.

Many virulent Trumpers are anti-Semites. (E.g., the neo-nazi Daily Stormer that hails Trump as their "Glorious Leader!")

Holocaust deniers such as Mark Weber, Jarrod Taylor, David Cole who all allege a Zionist conspiracy quickly rallied to Trump's support when he announced his candidacy.

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They are probably more vulnerable to manipulation too. I’m sure most monsters could be clinically diagnosed too.

 

What do they have to do with his motivations?

Doesn't like Jews
Anti-Israel
Hates Trump

 

I'm not claiming this rightist has a right to live, merely that I don't surrender to the State - to any State - the power to decide that.

 

Very few anti semites are in the country, and if they hate Jews their idiots for voting for trump. Trump has been the most pro jewish/Israel president ever. His daughter and son in law is Jewish, he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, and he has been very pro Israel in the peace negotiations.

 

A highly-intelligent, well-educated man of the world doesn't see the benefit to having the capacity to effectively act in your own defense?

Of course not - you just want dead bodies so you can further your authoritarian agenda.

 

Unsupportable nonsense.

 

Typical Trump MO, feed the base the divisive drivel rhetoric but actually does the opposite in reality........win,win for the big money donors. Similar example, pre existing conditions and the GOP support for it.

 

If someone is shooting at you, why do you not want the capacity to shoot back?

 

This should end the guessing about what I have stated in reference to committing act, including murder-suicide to further the goals of Haaretz ben Israel:
In Judaism, martyrdom is called Kiddush Hashem—"the sanctification of G‑d's name"
a martyr is called kadosh—"holy."
Tthe Talmud says of those who died al Kiddush Hashem that their place in the world to come is beyond the reach of any created being.

Jews of today do not follow Torah Tenakh for the most part, but Talmud.

 

Yes... where the innocent are disarmed by foolish laws and regulations.

 

I have to disagree. The event he was discussing was one where a woman was killed and people were seriously injured by right wing extremists. And one where white nationalists were walking down the road chanting racist slogans like "jews will not replace us". His statements were incendiary and racist...and it empowered people who should never be empowered. People like the kind that committed this shooting today.

trump is inciting violence and divisiveness all over the country and is directly responsible for the atmosphere that his sick behavior has inspired.

 

This guy is an anti-Trumper, against Israel and our support of Israel and could certainly get no more virulent that what he did in that opposition.

 

The MSM is disappointed by that!

 

Post where Trump has said ANYTHING antisemitic. His stepson is Jewish and he literally moved the embassy to Jerusalem against the wishes of everyone who actually hates Jews and is probably the most pro-Israeli President in recent history.

 

Funny, snowflake - thanks!

 

You do know todays shooter is a Trump hater? Jeez..

 

There is a solid history of a comment like this being false so early in the investigation:
https://www.google.com/search?ei=w7_UW-iwArCE5wK6k4W4Bw&q=is+today's+shooter+an+anti+trumper?&oq=is+today's+shooter+an+anti+trumper?&gs_l=psy-ab.3...26648.31964.0.33853.12.11.1.0.0.0.153.1444.0j11.11.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.153...33i10k1.0.FmRVRsDR8Fk