Trump Vows to End Birthright Citizenship

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  1. Ericb760

    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. This is is a plea to his >100 I.Q. point base who he has convinced that the reason their lives suck so much is because babies born on American soil are Americans by birth if they were born to immigrant parents, instead of them realizing that the tax cuts he pushed through for the ultra wealthy are the real cause of their suffering.

    I think it will backfire in so much as those on the left will be even more motivated this mid-term election to counter such ignorant rhetoric.
     
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    Its in the constitution
     
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    I honestly think that the SC would be 9-0 protecting birthright citizenship. Thing is Trump is right. It’s asinine but it’s also our constitution.
     
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    No, I think "subject to the jurisdiction" as applied to the right of citizenship upon birth, in an 1868 context, is a genuinely debatable question. I know of the custom and historical practice, I've read the Amendment and reviewed its application, this isn't a clear matter, there are cases on either side, the specific question of "anchor babies" has not been addressed. This is a question the Supreme Court could sensibly decide. I don't know how they'd decide. I've still to review at least Wong and Elk, but I don't see this as some fatuous argument and it does seem a transcendental issue.
     
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    Not at all. What part of a court interpreting the intent of a law is so confusing to you?
     
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    You either admitted Trump supporters are intelligent or you're not smart enough to understand the difference between "<" and ">".
     
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  7. Ericb760

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    Yeah, my bad. You know what I meant.
     
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    So you think only dumb Republicans think
    You need to uncouple that for us "dumb Republicans"; is it not true our lives suck because of the US citizenship of anchor babies, or do our lives suck due to the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy?
     
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    Why would we reunite the family? Theyve been deported were not letting them back in. If they want to take the child fine, the child can eventually come back as an adult. If not they can surrender the kid and the kid can be a ward of the state until adopted.
     
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    the Constitution has contained all sorts of stuff.

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    try again.
     
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    Yeah. They passed an amendment. You should too
     
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    again, why is automatic birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants good policy?
     
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    Because it is good policy to follow the constitution until it us amended
     
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    We should simply change the laws.
     
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    There's a process for that. Although this would probably require an amendment.
     
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    They are armed and they are an invasion force funded by foreign governments. We have the right and obligation to defend our nation against all foreign enemies. Give them a plain warning and if they continue their invasion terminate them on the border.
     
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    trump wimped out and did not force the issue to the SCOTUS where he would have won. He is all talk and no action.
     
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    The government did not enforce the equal protection of the laws clause for over 100 years.
     
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    "Vow" - did he actually make a vow? That seems like a bit of an overdramatic headline.
     
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    wonder why it took 50 years to follow the Constitution's 14th Amendment RE: granting Native Americans birthright citizenship.

    What does the Constitution's 14th Amendment say about birthright citizenship for the children of foreign diplomats? If they are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, what specifically makes children born to illegals subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?
     
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    If you commit a crime in Mexico and if they bust you for it you are subject to the jurisdiction on the United States of Mexico but you are not a Mexican citizen.
     
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    Wrong
     
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    Sure it is. Read it
     
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    Sorry there is no ruling against illegal born children
     

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