Ocasio-Cortez: Amazon’s HQ2 In NY's Long Island City Is ‘Extremely Concerning’

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    If done right there should be no screwing over just mutually satisfying screwing.
     
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    I think that it is a good deal on the surface but would be nice to know what the real deal is to analyze it. So Congresswoman Elect O 'Casio-Oriega Ortega should not be running her mouth against the deal until she gets the details and then only if they are bad.

    So Miss Ocasio-Ortez Oriega Congresswoman Elect needs to hold the criticism until and unless she has the facts.
     
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    I would hope that she would learn reality of the world but Miss Congresswoman Elect OcasioOrtega is starting out as a self styled little Socialist Wench. Maybe she needs to go with Bernmiester Sanders and admit that she is a Socialist just like he claims he is.
     
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    Let's look at the deal in a few years.

    My guess: With Amazon one of the frontrunners in automation, the number of new jobs will be far less than the 50,000 projected.

    Second guess: The benefit for the city and state will also be far less, but now they will be dependent on Amazon to not leave. They'll be in for blackmail for new subsidies.

    Third guess: Jeff Bezos will have made a few more billions, while workers salaries will have been flat.
     
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    Dem dissenters: We have the votes to block Trump Endorsed Pelosi's speakership

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    Confidence game.
     
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    The denseness of this woman Cortez never ceases to boggle me. The sheer revenue generating machine Amazon creates by moving to Queens is astounding. No matter where those workers are recruited from..they will be spending those salaries in NYC. Food, housing, entertainment..sigh..the woman is an idiot! Look at her tweets about this. Yes I lean conservative on fiscal ideology but I swear on my LIFE..there are 10 lefties on this forum id nominate 1000 % for this congressional seat vs her.
     
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    Amazon wants to get into finance, more atomized surveillance Capitalism is headed our way, and the profits for Amazon look huge. They want to grow into a conglomerate that is highly diversified, entertainment, shipping, go-to for anything consumer goods in all regions, finance-tech, and Bezos will of course himself be diversified even more so. Wonder where this is going.
     
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    I received a little more information concerning this Amazon activity from someone I know today, and it is not what I expected to hear exactly.

    A number of volcanologists, seismologists, and paleoseismologists, including Dr. Brian F. Atwater, a geologist who works for the United States Geological Survey and is also a research professor at the University of Washington, have made some very profound and disturbing 'observations' concerning Mt. Rainier (58 air-miles from Seattle), and, about earthquakes/tsunamis that are now way overdue everywhere in the Pacific Northwest.

    The earthquake(s) that Dr. Atwater foresees would be thirty times more powerful than anything that could occur on California's famous 'San Andreas Fault'. I've long had my own amateur's attention focused on the Hayward Fault, which run directly under Oakland, California, and hadn't been paying as much attention to the area around Rainier. What threatens the Seattle area today would make a 'wiggle' on the Hayward Fault seem like a mere 'fart in the bathtub'.

    What does Jeff Bezos know? Billionaires typically have access to a lot of information. Whatever it may be, he's probably not going to be exactly 'shouting it from the rooftops'. And it is likely he'll be getting his "second headquarters" on the East Coast stood-up, uh, soon.... :idea:
     
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    I live in the path of Mt. Rainier and regularly frequent it and Mt. St. Helens, we are all definitely aware of the danger and I was just going over evacuation routes the other day. It is definitely a risk having it in Seattle, but I think that is a little overblown in their case, as it will be the valleys to the South of Seattle that would be most devastated by an eruption. The earthquake along the fault off the coast could be worse perhaps for Seattle, but both mountains are at the highest possible likelihood of an eruption and anyone with huge assets is going to look to mitigate their risk. Makes sense especially in the case of Jeff Bezos who is heavily invested in the region, but the move also reflects a shift in where Bezos is spending his time. Also, Seattle is getting bolder in going after Amazon, and they have a stronger case because Amazon is centrally located there, they can better hide their profits if they have multiple HQs, and it weakens the positions of the cities they are in to better leverage taxes over them. Basically, Bezos is going to be the wealthiest guy in history unless there is a major tech collapse from wall street before he gets Amazon to the point where it would be extremely diversified.
     
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    A very interesting reply, Scotty. Who knows when Rainier is going to 'blow'... but the ice caves up in the domes have been melting quite a lot more during the past twenty years. Why the rising heat inside this gigantic stratovolcano...? Well, as long as you're adequately insured, I suppose there's not much else you can do except to make darn sure you have canned goods, firearms, ammunition, and at least half a tank of fuel in one of your vehicles....

    Truth? Probably the greater worry is the stock market, which, IMHO, is overvalued at this time by at least 10,000 points. Percentage-wise, it's even worse for the NASDAQ. The entire market structure has been riding a gigantic 'fraud balloon' ever since the Federal Reserve took over complete control of the economy in this country back in August 2007.

    All the best of luck to you, and to Jeff Bezos. I love Amazon, and have been a pretty good customer since 1999. Nothing in this world would ever make me want to go to Queens, but if it keeps Amazon functioning well, then so be it.... :cheerleader:
     
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    Tucker Carlson agrees with her.
     
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    Mere idiotic projection.
     
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    I primarily buy from Amazon, but that doesn't make me worried about the monopoly they are building. But at the same time, I am more worried about economic and political crises as being more disruptive than an eruption, given the state of things. But we will see, hope for the best, but plan for the worse. Given the **** I have seen, I am half expecting the whole world to go to **** any minute now.
     
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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson admitted Tuesday, in a rare moment of nonpartisanism, that he actually agreed on something with Democratic Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

    Carlson said it was “hard to argue with” the progressive newcomer’s criticism of e-commerce giant Amazon, which has received $2 billion in tax incentives in exchange for locating its two new headquarters in Long Island City, New York, and Arlington, Virginia.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ria-ocasio-cortez_us_5bebd78ce4b0caeec2bf7087

    Is he now a former Conservative for agreeing with a D?
     
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    Really, you are saying that companies haven't been playing these games in the past?

    Oh wait, they just played this game on a large scale to get a tax break from Trump with the promise that they repatriate money from overseas. I wonder where this money went, if it ever came back.

    Oh, and then there was Pence's little Carrier deal, which at the end amounted to few jobs being retained but lots of tax payer's money in Carrier's pockets.

    This kind of looting of the tax payers through corporate welfare has to stop.
     
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    BEHOLD, KARMA. THE LEFTIST IDIOTS RAISED THIS GENERATION ON UNTHINKING VICTIMHOOD. DID THEY THINK IT WOULDN’T TURN ON THEM?

    Ocasio-Cortez turning into a nightmare for Congressional Dems.
     
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    She has somewhat of a point
     
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    The bailouts had nothing to do with enticing companies to a state. Blues have been complaining about red states offering tax incentives to steal companies away from their states. Now NY is doing the same thing. I guess if you can't beat them, join them.
     
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    She's the new face of the Left:

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    Whaat. She isn't even seated yet.
    But she must have you all worried for some reason. LOL. She won't be nothing but a lowly state legislature.
     
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    She was elected to Congress.

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    Given the attention you are paying to her, you must be worried.
    Not sure why tho.
    She's a lowly state legislator not even seated yet. Who, besides those she represents, actually listens to what she says? And besides you.
     
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    Do you know the difference between a state legislator and a U.S. congressperson representing a district of a particular state?
     
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    Correct. She's a lowly congresswoman, representing her little area. Thx. Not yet seated.
    Again, who really cares what she says?
     
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