FBI now classifies far-right Proud Boys as 'extremist group'

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  1. Durandal

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    http://officialproudboys.com/proud-boys/whoaretheproudboys/

    The Proud Boys are a men’s organization founded in 2016 by Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes. McInnes has described the Proud Boys as a pro-Western fraternal organization for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world; aka Western Chauvinists.

    Proud Boys‘ values center on the following tenets:

    Minimal Government
    Maximum Freedom
    Anti-Political Correctness
    Anti-Drug War
    Closed Borders
    Anti-Racial Guilt
    Anti-Racism
    Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
    Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
    Glorifying the Entrepreneur
    Venerating the Housewife
    Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

    Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us. We have an international reach, with members spanning the globe. If you have any questions or would like get in contact with your local chapter, feel free to contact us directly via our staff page. This, after all, the one and only Proud Boy Magazine. For Proud Boys, by Proud Boys. UHURU!
     
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    http://officialproudboys.com/proud-boys/we-are-not-alt-right/

    Word on the street is the Alt-Right wants to start infiltrating our meetings in an effort to recruit new members and/or sabotage us. Apparently something went down in Charlottesville that wasn’t good PR for them and they’re also angry we refused to “unite the right.” I’m being told they are going to pretend not to be Alt-Right so they can come to meet-ups and gather as much info as possible. They also plan to get caught doing terrible things while wearing our shirts in an effort to discredit us. It’s a strange strategy but they’re not known for being reasonable.

    Please be very diligent about new members. If there is even a possibility they are Alt-Right, do not allow them at meet-ups. If you know of anyone who is presently a member and who is Alt-Right, they are cut from the club as of right now. If you refuse, you are your own separate entity and not affiliated with Proud Boys.

    1. HOW DO I KNOW IF A MEMBER IS ALT-RIGHT?
    The two big differences we have with them is the “JQ” and racial identity politics. They think the Jews are responsible for America’s problems and they think “Western” is inseparable from “white.” They don’t see a future for non-whites in America. **** THAT. We reject all of those things. We openly encourage Jewish and non-white members and want them to know they’re at home with us. Black and Jewish conservatives have to put up with a lot of **** and the last thing we want is for them to feel uncomfortable when hanging out with their drinking buddies.

    Other signs of the Alt-Right include an obsession with Hitler, saying socialism might work, seeing gays as degenerates and eschewing Christianity. These all pale in comparison to the two biggies. The second you see signs of JQ or white nationalism, show them the door. To be clear: All white nationalists / anti-Semites are banned from Proud Boys even if they never bring up said topics.
     
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    Again, you act like violence is limited to homicide.
     
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    Guns and drugs. What could go wrong.

    "Proud boys" indeed :rolleyes:
     
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    I don't act as if it is limited to homicide, first of all the hate crimes data for 2017 is not out yet so I don't have data on assaults. Left wingers and right wingers beat each other up, that's not unsurprising on the political extremes, but I do think homicides are far more serious and significant and should not be minimized.
     
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    Just the most recent assault over clothing, how many "I'm with her" assaults can you post?
    Assaulted for Wearing MAGA Hat - Moonbattery
    https://moonbattery.com/assaulted-for-wearing-maga-hat
    Careful wearing a MAGA hat in public. They tend to set off liberal tolerance , which it is unsafe to get on the wrong side of: Jonathan Sparks told KVOA he was walking through downtown Tucson the Saturday before Election Day to encourage people to vote for Republicans.
     
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    And they can't masturbate, so these incels can't get laid nor can they take off a load. Any wonder they are so violent?
     
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    Anecdotal.
     
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    What about assaults? Violence is violence.
    I made a thread on this very topic.
     
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    LOL, no, it's not, it's documented. What about the "I'm with her" assaults?

    1. GRAPHIC VIDEO: Teens Kidnap and Torture Trump Supporter In ...
      https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/graphic-video-teens-kidnap-and...
      A group of black teens kidnapped and tortured a white Trump supporter in Chicago and according to the police, the victim had “mental health challenges.” The thugs actually streamed video of their heinous actions on Facebook LIVE.

    2. "F--- White People, F--- Trump" - Man Kidnapped, Tortured ...
      https://wearechange.org/****-white-people-****-trump-man-kidnapped...
      UPDATE: Arrests Made After Group Kidnaps Trump Supporter, Violently Holds Him Hostage Four people have been taken into custody in Chicago after apparently kidnapping and brutalizing a man they claimed supports Donald Trump.
     
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    People shouldn't wear MAGA Hats in public.

    People just shouldn't show support for Trump, publicly.

    Problem solved.
     
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    Runs from stats to anecdote. Shall I list out all the white supremacists homicides since 9/11?
     
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    It's good to see patriotic Americans denouncing these fanatics.
     
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    Indeed!
     
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    Un-American assessment.

    Typical of you and your ilk.

    Why do you (and your ilk) hate America and democracy so, so much?
     
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    Oh yeah, right.

    Like you and your ilk will denounce antifa.

    Never gonna happen!
     
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    Why not? Does support of the president trigger you
     
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    I have a thread for that, you know where it is and you really need to learn the definition of "anecdotal" The perps were sentenced to prison, hardly anecdotal.
    But please do, show us where Trump supporters have kidnapped a black special needs teen and tortured him 3 days for who he MAY have voted for
     
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    I know perfectly well the definition and how I am using the term, I have presented data you present small discreet narratives which don't on their own paint the picture you are trying to illustrate.

    Is there violence from leftists? Yes. Is it a problem? Yes. Is it as big a problem for our law enforcement agencies? At this time no, white supremacists extremists clearly demonstrate a significant danger to the public that needs to be addressed.
     
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    Because those "tolerant" liberals are prone to violence at the slightest provocation, real or imagined.
     
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    How about ANTIFA? Do they consider them a hate group also or is this just more leftist double standard BS?
     
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    ANTIFA (aka Trump's False Flag Dirty Tricks Squad?).
     
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    LOL, enjoy your agenda and denial. I am obviously wasting time with you.
     
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    I denounce Antifa, I denounce political violence, I denounce Anarcho-Communism and attacks against private property.

    I also denounce the political violence of the Proud Boys. I may have more sympathies for the Anti-fascists since I too hold very strong views against Fascism, I just don't think their tactics work at all nor is their end game in any way desirable. I hold no association or allegiance to antifa and think their activities play into the hands of people like you, and that we should have sufficient law enforcement to protect counter protesters from white supremacists.

    I want to win at the ballot box and you don't do that by punching people, or at least only if you're punching people at the ballot boxes which I hope does not happen here.
     
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    Along with ANTIFA?
     
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