FBI now classifies far-right Proud Boys as 'extremist group'

Documented. Money launderers etc..

 

Whatever label your required to use to destroy the "enemy" is your perversion to live with, not mine.

 

Oh brother!

 

I see many references to the Proud Boys - all negative and mostly from leftists - but very little by the Proud Boys themselves

For instance nowhere did I find direct quotes by the organization confirming the initiation process you describe

I’m not saying they are not eager to beat up ANTIFA should they get the chance

But all the negative stuff about them is alleged by others

Here is the Proud Boys in their own words

http://officialproudboys.com/proud-boys/whoaretheproudboys/

 

You can fantasize that most Americans are extremists if you need to, but this thread is about one group that has been thusly classified by the FBI.

Are you able to honestly confront it?

 

"Estimated to have about 5,000 members nationwide, Proud Boys believes that there are ten ways to fix America: Abolish prisons, give each American a gun, legalize drugs, end welfare, close borders to illegal immigrants, outlaw censorship, venerate the housewife, glorify the entrepreneur, shut down the government and declare the “West is best”. In a perverse dichotomy, the Proud Boys simultaneously believe that there is a war on masculinity that starts from the time boys are young and continues throughout their lives, while also holding that men have the power and means to “create the modern world” and will not apologize for doing so.

While the entirety of the ten “fixes” for America proposed by the Proud Boys is problematic, their attack on women raises questions in a society that already marginalizes and objectifies female bodies, minds, and capabilities. A female reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel was asked by a Proud Boys member if he should bring condoms to the interview. McInnes told a female reporter in a later interview that she should give up her job and focus on becoming pregnant, as her eggs weren’t going to last forever."

First fact based paragraph doesn't line up with the second one of opinions. And its amazing how there are a lot of left wing ideologies in their "10 ways to fix America. They are socialially an amalgamation of both left and right ideologies, mostly left wing though. Don't know if "outlaw censorship" is strictly a right wing ideology. Hell, I figure even "glorify the entrepreneur" is a shared value of the left and right.

 

Ok

You do not like his opinions

They are strongly against cherish liberal values

Too bad

The guy has a right to think and say what he wants to

But you want government to criminalize free speech

 

Soooo again we're only interested in skewing the right huh? I made a VERY VALID POINT. I really don't know enough about proud boys to talk about them but I do however, know a lot about ANTIFA who DEFINITELY ARE a hate group. So as a point of reference, knowing how the FBI feels about them would tell me if anything they say about proud boys should be believed. Especially given the fact many of the FBI loved the liberal left so much, they were willing to commit several felonies to help them especiallly Hillary Clinton who is a major criminal which speaks volumes to me.

So again, did they also brand ANTIFA a hate group?

 

They are an anti-American hate group with a strong libertarian mystique.

Whether they align with one politician or party more than another is relevant and revelatory, but not determinative.

 

You can embrace Proud Boys if you share their agenda.

Promulgating Proud Boys ideology publicly is an affirmation of free speech, not its negation.

 

An international hate group. They are anti-American, anti-Liberty, anti-Democracy scum. Violent, filled with hate for all people not of their tiny sliver of humanity. They even despise women. Which leads me to wonder how they intend to maintain their numbers? Forced breeding? Wouldn't put it past them.

 

Oh? A public website where anyone can edit the page about someone they don't like? Yeah, after what the left did to Santorum's page, I would like something more credible.

 

Bahhaha, which part is "anti-American"? Or even hateful?

 

Yeah, your opinion on the matter is moot really. Lets discuss facts. Nothing you say even remotely lines up with their values.

 

You are free to embrace their agenda, their anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric, and applaud their appearing with other hate groups at extremist rallies such as “Unite the Right.”

You can thrill at their sporting their red “Make America Great Again” and their being aggressively and defiantly white and male.

The FBI has classified the far-right Proud Boys as an “extremist group with ties to white nationalism.”

 

What don't you get about extremism and hate groups are on the far left AND the far right respectively? Although 90% of the rest of the population falls somewhere in the middle of that and aren't hate groups on either side of the fence, the left seems to be leaning towards violence far more than the right.

I know this for a fact because I used to be a former democrat until about 6 months into Obama's first term who at first I loved until seeing what he was really up to and have since dubbed to be the ANTICHRIST.

These days I seriously don't understand the democratic party at all. They don't even mildly resemble democrats of the pre-Obama era like they've all drank from some kind of river of hate. The vitriole is even evident on their faces without them having to speak. Even in Hollywood in people like Joy Bahar who at one time I used to actually like to watch before she became so politically INcorrect.

Seriously, she's changed so much, I fear they'd better call an exorcist before her head starts spinning and she spits up green soup. And pretty much the same goes for Robert Deniro, Streisand, Alec Baldwin, Meryl Streep, Depp, and hell just about all others in Hollywood who have all become so crazy and unhinged, they're gonna need a whole factory of straight jackets soon before they physically hurt someone. "When was the last time someone talked about assassinating a president?" " Yes I've even thought about blowing up the whitehouse."

Even Taylor Swift, the former Shirley Temple of musicville has joined the hate parade, becoming vocal and using her fame to change the result of the election for the left. It really is like they've all entered the Twilight Zone or made a pact with the devil.

 

State one hateful thing they've said, if you are even remotely capable of doing so.

 

I have no problem with this as long as Antifa and Black Lives Matter are also listed as extremist groups.

 

That they haven't - for instance - killed anyone certainly speaks to how ridiculous your claim is.

WADR

 

This entire thread is based on fake news that took one line from a Washington state document in an extremely liberal city and tried to make it official FBI policy.

"An Internal Affairs investigation document from the Clark County Sheriff’s Office in Vancouver, WA explicitly stating the FBI considers the "Proud Boys to be an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.”

https://propertyofthepeople.org/document-detail/?doc-id=5189588-Clark-County-Sheriff-s-Memo

 

Uh-oh.

You keep responding reasonably.

 

But Antifa!

And Obama!

Also, apple pie.

I mean apple sauce...

 

The FBI want to criminalise conservative opinion? Surely you can't be serious.

 

These are facts.

Feel facts are preferred.

 

I would not say so if I didnt mean it