Judge blocks Trump administration from denying asylum claims to immigrants who cross border illegal

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  1. BuckyBadger

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    Cases like this should be appealed and sent directly to the SCOTUS for a ruling. Court systems can work correctly when Judges stay within their boundaries.
     
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    Works even better when Presidents do....
     
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    It is the pure definition of illegal immigration and we called it 'Asylum'. It's an alien body entering the US with no intention of being a citizen or a legal resident of the Union. Well, I've had it to the exceptions. No and F NO. And this Judge can kiss my ass. The nation supersedes his ideology for what law should be.
     
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    They are just people and they have every right to come to America just like anyone else in the world.

    Democrats would allow endless caravans to flood America until America was so destroyed that the caravan stopped on their own. If one tells you otherwise they are lying to your face. If one tells you that America doesn't deserve to be destroyed they are lying to your face. If a Democrat tells you they do not want to fundamentally transform America they are lying to your face.
     
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    Setting aside that you are basically advocating that our country destroy the central pillar upon which the US Government (i.e. multiple overlapping branches of government) is built...Trump is the one unilaterally trying to alter the US Constitution and US Federal law.
     
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    Then you know what will happen?(Not that I'm angry with you, I'm just saying). EVERY case thereto will be sent to the SCOTUS. And it will be for the purpose of further hamstringing this, and future administrations. The Framers had novel intentions with the 'multiple checks and balances', but it was only under the premise that they would work in conjunction for the good of the Nation.

    In reality, Courts have the power now to act politically against the Nation-State, which means to act against all of us. They are a liability, not an asset.
     
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    The democrats would flood America with anyone and everyone from anywhere until America was completely destroyed , nobody would want to come here any more.
     
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    It's not an overlapping branch, it is a dictatorial branch with no oversight. Only Judges can rule, and they will rule how they see fit in the courtroom. The only reason these dictators haven't yet been given the branch crown is that they can only rule on cases that are brought in there. But once there, our democracy has died.

    Abolish the Courts. A stain on the system.
     
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    Taking chicken little to new heights of absurdity, I see
     
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    Yea... you can take that un-American proposal and shove it.
     
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    Hasn't that already happened though? Tourist levels have declined substantially over the decades
     
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    Paraphrased from the "Yogi Berra book of Nonsensical Sayings"....
     
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    Okay, then do explain the remedy the State has against the Court? Tell us all how the State can check the Court? It cannot. It is therefore overseer and ruler over us all. And in my political view, the situation has become untenable. We are either a political or a judicial state, but we can never be both.
     
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    How many immigrants is to many immigrants for a Democrat? I hear infinite. Democrats do everything they can to aid abet and encourage everyone in the world to come here. They even make threads about how the illegal immigrants are better people than the Americans already living here. They obviously do not have Americans best interests in mind.
     
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    Before the 2016 election and my subsequently joining this website, I would have found that theory insane.... Now??? Ehhhhh
     
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    Another judge overstepping their judicial authority. This ruling isn't with the scope of the judicial branch. Trump should just ignore this ruling and move on.
     
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    In what way? They're not attached to American culture, and even our culture is now fractured and frayed due to ideologies and the battle over ideology. The situation is worse than the Civil War. In the Civil War, we had the fortune of fighting a war of one simple ideological difference, with two sides. A very convenient state of affairs. That's not our state of affairs now.

    Our current state of affairs is one where both conservatism and liberalism has failed. And even beyond simple failure, we don't know what conservatism or liberalism means. Ideally, we can take this for reform as I seek reform to create a true Empire that will unite the people. But the people will resist even that reform.

    The US's political body is decaying as Jimmy Carter said in his final address as President. One can say we've reached critical mass. Until we decide upon a new union, the country will continue to fall into disarray.
     
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    Which is why democrats want to flood this country with anyone and everyone from anywhere until the country is so destroyed that nobody wants to come here any more. Why Americans would elect democrats who hate them to govern them is beyond me but when you see how much the public is constantly brainwashed it make sense. The globalist are brainwashing Americans in to destroying their own nation.
     
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    There is no such thing as "economic asylum"
     
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    That is a super easy question. As an initial matter, the courts are part of the State. So I reject that the "State" is against the Court. You mean the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch, but I'll use "State" for ease.

    The court gets checked by the State in a whole host of ways. First and foremost is the fact that the Court checks itself through things like the appeals process, stare decisis, and the fact that courts decide issues on the most narrow and least intrusive paths possible (like deciding the Jim Acosta issue on Due Process grounds rather than First Amendment).

    Then you consider the fact that the State is the ones who appoint the judges to the courts, have the ability to removes judges from the court, and the ability to outright abolish courts altogether in some circumstances.

    Finally, consider the fact that the State both controls the funding and for the courts (the legislators), they decide the range of issues that fall within the purview of the courts, and finally the executive branch has the only ability to actually enforce any of the decisions made by the courts.
     
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    That's because you are not listening and think you can just make up total bullshit for the other side.
     
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    Ok then... how many is to many?
     
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    Normally those strongly advocating for the poor / middle class are doomed to remain there.
     
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    How many of the ~325 million people currently living in the US, of which approximately ~6 million are Native Americans, qualify as immigrants in your mind?
     
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    You can always trust liberal judges who don’t give a rat’s ass about the Constitution to muck things up. The USSC will fix it.
     
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