Now we know why Trump hides tax returns

Trump's continued protectionism would include killing over 150 Russian mercs in Syria, Sanctions, 60 Russian diplomats exiled from the US, 755 American diplomats expelled from Russia, the Trump administration closed three Russian diplomatic facilities in the US, including its consulate in San Francisco, and two annexes in Washington, DC, and New York City,

In December, Trump announced his support for the sale of lethal munitions to the Ukrainian government in its fight against Russian-backed separatists in the country's Donbas region, a move that angered Russia, which has been engaged in a hybrid war in the region for the past four years. The State Department officially approved $47 million weapons sale in early March.

Maybe someone is keeping up on current events. Bluster on

 

You know that Trump is not still tied to any financial contracts with any foreign person of power? We now know that Trump's statements and other peoples statements related to his business contradict each other. BTW who paid Bill half a million?

 

What foreign contacts does he still have? How have they contradicted? Cliinton was paid by a kremlin run bank, to give a “speech” in Moscow while his wife was SoS...

 

I have not said he has which was why I asked the question. You said that he hasn't, so how do you know?

Contradictions were shown in last weeks news regarding years in question. And I'm happy for the Clintons to be investigated regarding that speech

 

He does not walk far enough to jay walk.

 

1) he said he doesn’t, and there is no evidence to show there is. That simple.

2) what news?

 

That explains soooo much.

 

Well after that little nugget we now no you can successfully plead the inanity defense. More 2+2 equals thirty five.

 

Sorry that was a suggetion made by Sater to get the deal moving never happened.

 

First off, He isn't required to show them.

Second, If I were Trump I wouldn't allow a feeding frenzy of Democrats anywhere near my tax return. You want to know why>

Example: Trump makes a joke at his rally asking Russia, if they know where Hillarys deleted emails are please send them to us.

Democratic reaction: Trump colluded with Russia to hack DNC servers to undermine an election so Putin could help Trump get elected.

I wouldn't give a Democrat my dogs pedigree.

 

The IRS can only do something if he committed tax fraud. Taking loans from Russia isn't illegal,but it does show that he's very closely tied to Russia on a personal level. The IRS can not release his tax returns without his permission, and so he refuses to allow it, knowing that his direct ties to Russia would not look good when he is literallly being investigated for working with Russia to attack the US.

Now, there is a good chance that Mueller could get a warrant to look at all his tax records. I'm sure a judge would consider personal loans from Russia a pretty good reason to look at Trump's personal records when they are investigating possible collusion with Russia.

 

I know of no laws that will allow a warrant to obtain a tax return for any reason. The IRS provides a list of reasons where a 3rd party can review a tax return but none of them allow it without the permission of the filer to include law enforcement.

If the Trump organization received any loans from Russia you would have agreements and deposits you could subpoena. Once the FBI received their warrants using their FISA application they were able to look at financial records and I guarantee you they exploited everything they could.

If there was a money connection between Trump and Russia it would have been exposed long before now. The only information regarding Trump and Russia money connections is being perpetrated by Democrats, not law enforcement.

The only way a loan would change hands would be to incorporate the assets of the Trump organization, not Trump personally as all he would have to do is file a CH 11, move the loan to an unsecured status, and move on.

In other words, all this noise about Russia Trump money loans and how Trump is compromised because he owes money to Russia is pretty ridicules and continually promoted by individuals who have no idea how money and our banking system works.

 

Right?

 

At first, I though it was because people would find out that his real net worth as only a fraction of what he claim it is (that figure changes with each telling).

 

If they are hidden, how do you know what they reveal? How do you know what Trump knows?
Really, how do you know anything?

 

The Birthers=The Trump Tax Returners.....

 

Why would it ? Clintons got away with it .

 

There doesn't need to be a specific law. If a tax return could reveal information on an ongoing investigation, a judge can issue a warrant.

 

So if you can get a warrant to seize a tax return it would make sense that the FBI would have already done that when the investigation began along with banking information, accounts, wire transfers, daily balances, and contractual agreements. With the amount of leaks coming out of the FBI as undisclosed Federal sources confirm, it would seem this accusation of Trump being compromised by the Russia government is yet another nothingburger.

 

I think a warrant for a tax return is likely not allowed, but the legal question is still open. In any case a warrant for Trump's tax returns would be unconstitutional.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation......" There is no probable cause. "Because I want to see if anything suspicious is in them" is not probable cause.

 

The FBI was investigating the Trump Campaign, and not Trump directly. A judge would not have issued a warrant for non-campaign documnts.

During the course of Mueller's investigation, however, it's come out that Trump himself has personal ties to Russia,and so, he has every reaosn to seek a warrant to access Trump's personal finances and documentation.

 

Financial ties to a to a government that Trump is accused of colluding with would constitute probable cause to investigate his personal finances and tax records. It's known that he received several loans from Russia.

 

Really? Can you provide links showing these loans?

 

Not really sure how you came up with (its come out that Trump himself has personal ties to Russia) but you might want to review the sentencing agreement Cohen just signed. Another torpedo sinking the Mueller investigation.

In Cohens sentencing memo, the memo’s language regarding Trump changes when it begins to describe Cohen’s false statements to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow Project. Rather than characterizing Cohen as acting on Trump’s direction, Cohen’s lawyers write that their client lied in order “to support and advance Trumps political messaging. Messaging that they describe Cohen as picking up from public statements by the president and his supporters, rather than any private discussions.

If Cohen’s lawyers had any information that Cohen lied to Congress at Trump’s specific direction or with his or his family’s active encouragement, they would have shared it here

https://www.lawfareblog.com/theres-lot-going-michael-cohens-sentencing-memo

Whoopsy

 

Anybody want to see all the claims he made during the campaign about not having any business dealings with Russia. Or is everyone so inured to Trump lying that it doesn't make any difference anymore?

Sorry, foolish question.