Five Major Problems with James Comey’s Latest Russia Probe Testimony

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Of course knowing Trump, if he hangs on long enough to lose the 2020 election, he will just resign a few days early so President Pence can pardon him.
     
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    Darryl Issa cannot prosecute anyone. Neither can any other congressperson.

    Comey spelled out Hillary's guilt in mishandling classified information. He then chose not to indict, which is the DOJ's prerogative. It's called prosecutorial discretion.

    Hillary was investigated for a highly probable known crime. Trump was investigated with no probable cause -- no crime.
     
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    Thats just wrong. He was never the target of any investigation until he fired Comey. The when those in his inner circle were found to have committed crimes they started to implicate him. And his inner circle was only quastioned about what the russians did. THEY lied. THEY were indicted for crimes THEY committed, and then THEY implicated Trump.
     
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    Like I said, "Trump was investigated with no probable cause -- no crime." [emphasis yours] Glad you confirm that. You mention no crime nor any probable cause in your post.
     
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    Obstruction of justice for firing Comey.

    Felony campiagn finance violation

    And for the Record, Mueller isn’t investigating Turmp. He’s invetigating why the russians meddled in our election.
     
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    Correct. It's been a Get Trump from day 1 and even before when Obama was wiretapping his campaign.
     
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    Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Mueller's appointment was to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump;"
     
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    and any crimes rising out of this mandate.
     
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    That was one of the things. He also had some specific investigations including Paul Manafort when his crimes came up in relation to the Russia investigation long before Mueller came on board.
     
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    I think you have to back up to the point that there is no evidence someone was shot on 5th Avenue and start from there in your analogy.
     
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    You are correct, I meant to say appointed
     
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    ...... and directly connected to [integral to] the assigned activity. Any other crime, not directly tied to "links and/or coordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign" that is discovered must, by law, get approval from the AG to proceed (and not from the Deputy AG.) Manafort's prosecution is clearly in that category and therefore is an illegal prosecution. (But who's counting....)
     
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    Mueller's appointment was to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump;"
    No, it was not "one of the things," it was the only thing that Mueller was authorized to investigate. By law the authorization for an appointed Special Prosecutor must be explicit and specific, to wit, "The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated." Anything else Mueller would like to do or maybe had done in the past isn't in the ballpark.
     
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    He was given a specific set of instructions. Reviewed by a judge and determined to be proper.
     
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    I feel your pain, reality will not be found on FOX News.
     
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    All I explained was the law regarding Special Prosecutors. I never claimed that judges haven't trampled all over or ignored the law. Judges usually go along with whatever a prosecutor -- especially a Special Prosecutor -- says. Probably even more so in these "hate Trump" days.
     
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    I can't seem to find any pain. Where is it?
     
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    Can't help you with this, paying attention may help.
     
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    Good lord Rod, not its not the “only thing”. It says “any matter that arose or may arise directly from the investigation”. All of the crimes prosocuted have been found in the investigation of the russian meddling.
     
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    No. You quoted the first sentence. You ignored the whole "in course of" and "additional matters" parts. You seem to be banking on the idea that the special prosecutor should be limited to a single case.
     
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    No, Manafort's prosecution has zero to do with Mueller's mandate.
     
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    You need to improve your reading comprehension. The law says the matter. That means one and only one. Other matters that you all like to hang your beanie on relates to things that directly tie to the single mandate, like finding a witness is illegally holding back information. I know you have trouble reading the law, but it actually gives examples, to wit, "The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses...."
     
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    The same Comey that liberals hated not so long ago? Comey was poison years ago, Obama was too weak to solve that problem and it was just one more thing that Trump had to fix...
     
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    I absolutly does. Read the appointment letter.
     
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    Exactly.

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    Nunes Reveals His Plan to Get Carter Page FISA Docs Released to the Public

    Democrats are very much against transparency.
     
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