Trump To Review Case Against Major Matt Goldsteyn – Charged w/ Murder for Killing Taliban Bomb-Maker

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  1. Questerr

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    So, you believe Bush should be prosecuted, yes?
     
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    If you have to move and there is no chopper available to get your prisoners you waste them and get on with the mission.
     
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    Outside of being some kind of a Pathetic RW "Hey I killed a terrorist, aren't I cool" attention whore-- was there any other motive for his confession on Fox?
     
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    The point being that it was investigated and dismissed. You didn't know that?
     
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    I read all of that. I trust the Major's judgment.
     
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    And you will be prosecuted by a war crimes tribunal as you should be!
     
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    This is bullshit, Trump should let him out.

    What I can't work out is why he felt it necessary to confess on Fox
     
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    Nope. I got out, returned to the USA, and have lived here without regret ever since.
     
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    C/1/20 was known as a payback infantry unit.

    Charley should have known better than to **** with C/1, that there would be retribution to pay for.
     
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    There are ...

    International laws and regulations, e.g. The Geneva Convention, which the United States has signed, and where the US has innumerable times indicted those enemies who violated these laws and regulations, and locked them up in prisons or punished them with death. So the US has to stick to these things too ... and there's nothing to discuss about!

    And there are also internal US rules of the armed forces and organs for combat missions etc., which are to be followed by US law. Whether they are always smart, is an open and other question, but they are still to follow until they are valid ... and there is nothing to discuss about!

    Did the major violate these things with his act - yes or no?

    The answer is the only one decisive, whether the indictment is justified or not!
     
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    He has a right to call an air strike on a target he deems a military target and declare someone an enemy combatant. It comes from him being CnC.

    Did this officer have authority to kill this guy?

    If so then why
    "The documents say Golsteyn and another soldier took the man to his home. Instead of releasing him, Golsteyn fatally shot the man and buried his body. The documents don’t include an explanation from Golsteyn on why he shot the man, but they do refer it as an “assassination.”

    Hours later, he dug up the victim’s remains and burned them in the pit used to dispose of trash and classified documents, according to the military records referencing his account."
    https://www.mnnofa.com/2018/12/13/green-beret-charged-with-murdering-afghan-man/
     
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    It wasn't his decision to make. Soldiers don't make policy. He admitted to killing someone on TV. The military is right to look into this and see if he belongs in prison.
     
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    How many times do you need to ask?
     
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    You really know how to stretch the elastic, now don't you
     
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    It definitely needs a thorough investigation.
     
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    ”We will also expand authorities for American armed forces to target the terrorists and criminal networks that sow violence and chaos throughout Afghanistan,” - Donald J. Trump

    WASHINGTON – U.S. forces are no longer bound by requirements to be in contact with enemy forces in Afghanistan before opening fire, thanks to a change in rules of engagement orchestrated by Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis.

    Mattis, appearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford, told a pair of congressional hearings that the White House gave him a free hand to reconsider the rules of engagement and alter them to speed the battle against the Taliban if need be.


    https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2017/10/03/mattis-reveals-new-rules-of-engagement/
     
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    These folks don't need reasons, that's just a liberal talking point, it just helps mask their defeatist attitude...
     
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    No they weren't, they still controlled significant territory when Obama left office. Trump worked with Syria and Russia to defeat ISIS, Obama was either running away from his red lines, or whining about regime change and ISIS prospered...
     
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    If a Green Beret Is a War Criminal, Then So Is Obama
     
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    Its true though.

    Obama forced the military to fight with one hand tied behind its back.

    Even backwards goat herders understand the concept of loosening the ROE.

    Its an international language.
     
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    So long as the ears weren't taken as souvenirs, no war crime.
     
  23. BuckyBadger

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    ROE is everything to American forces. Deployments without the proper ROE and you might as well not even be there. God bless Mattis and Trump.
     
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    Does that make a difference? I haven't followed the story closely but if the bomber was a prisoner then why is ok to kill him?
     
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    Regardless, if the Major shot and killed a detained person that wasn't resisting, there are rules and proper procedure to go by.
     

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