Does multiculturalism actually work?

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Belch has defined himself, no one else. He is a right, so there you go.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I see. Well thank goodness I have a paragon of intelligence such as yourself to set me straight, Belch.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why do Conservatives oppose equality for all Americans, regardless of race and ethnicity?

    why do they insist that America be all-white and Christian?
     
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    another question?
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    got an answer?
     
  6. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    I don't play that stupid game. I know the drill. I provide a rational or logical argument for how I feel, and you guys ask a stupid question.

    I'm just calling you out on your inability to formulate a simple argument.

    It's no wonder that you had to put a question mark at the end of your sentence. I predicted it several posts ago.

    It's all you have, and I predicted that's all you have.
     
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  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    my argument is that anyone can be American, no matter their ethnicity, color, national origin.

    lots of non-whites are loyal, hard working Americans.

    but you seem to think only white people can be "true" Americans.
     
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  8. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    You're the first to talk about race. I was talking about culture, and then you bring up race.

    Why did you bring up that strawman? Incapable of nothing else?

    The one time you manage to come up with something that doesn't end in a question mark, but it culminates in a strawman! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
     
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    hmm....looks like you brought up race long before I did
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    look, more mentioning of race.

    how about that
     
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    yep, you brought up race long before I did
     
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    European culture means race to you? WASP means race to you? I admit that W means white, but that's in response to "This is why the left loves everybody who isn't a WASP".

    Was I not specific enough to point out that the left defines people along the lines of WASP, as in "this is why the left loves everybody who isn't a wasp"? but you bring that up as a rebuttal to me defining people who see things through a racial lens?

    Something to think about.

    I was talking about lefties who see things through a racial lens, and all you can do is point that out, and make it seem as if I was doing that.

    Weak sauce...
     
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    WHITE anglo-saxon protestant.

    leaves out most of the planet Earth, bro.
     
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    As I already pointed out, that was my defining WASP according to the left. White anglo saxon protestants don't call themselves that.

    However, I do have to credit you for actually trying to provide a rebuttal. It's a start...
     
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    White Anglo-Saxon Protestant is race, religion, and ethnicity
     
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    most folks dont use the term "WASP" anymore.

    you're behind the times, bro
     
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    Except that protestants can be any color. the WASP thing is a lefty invention.
     
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    you dont know what you're talking about.

    Anglo-Saxon as a modern term
    The concept of "Anglo Saxon" and especially "Anglo Saxon Protestantism" evolved in the late 19th century, especially among American Protestant missionaries eager to transform the world. Historian Richard Kyle says:

    Protestantism had not yet split into two mutually hostile camps – the liberals and fundamentalists. Of great importance, evangelical Protestantism still dominated the cultural scene. American values bore the stamp of this Anglo-Saxon Protestant ascendancy. The political, cultural, religious, and intellectual leaders of the nation were largely of a Northern European Protestant stock, and they propagated public morals compatible with their background.[13]

    Before WASP came into use in the 1960s the term "Anglo Saxon" filled some of the same purposes. "Anglo-Saxons" by 1900 was often used as a synonym for all people of English descent and sometimes more generally, for all the English-speaking peoples of the world. It was often used in claims for the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race, much to the annoyance of outsiders. For example, Josiah Strong boasted in 1890:

    In 1700 this race numbered less than 6,000,000 souls. In 1800, Anglo-Saxons (I use the term somewhat broadly to include all English-speaking peoples) had increased to about 20,500,000, and now, in 1890, they number more than 120,000,000.[14]

    In 1893 Strong envisioned a future "new era" of triumphant Anglo-Saxonism:

    Is it not reasonable to believe that this race is destined to dispossess many weaker ones, assimilate others, and mould the remainder until... it has Anglo-Saxonized mankind?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant#Anglo-Saxon_as_a_modern_term
     
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    Yes, but people of color cannot be WASP, which is what you have been railing about. Do you understand now?
     
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    Vox is describing himself.
     
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    White is not a race.
     
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    WASP is an invention of Evangelical whites in the 1800s.

    they discussed Anglo-Saxon supremacy
     
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    Yer edumkated, so the Trumper write think you doan' know nuttin.'
     
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    sure it is.

    what would you call it, a type of meat?
     
  25. Belch

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    WASP is a lefty invention, which I was railing against. Protestants can be any color. We're not racist on my side of the aisle, but we don't have problems calling the people on the other side of the aisle out.
     

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