Trump to address nation regarding the national security crisis on the border

Why would I care how MANY plans there are?

And, no, the debate is NOT on that.

It's on whether we should hand over $5B tax dollars to Trump for some plan that does NOT exist to fund a project that even HE has said would require $25B.

 

That’s what the party of goodness does.

 

You are easily duped.

It is Dirty Donnie’s shutdown because he claimed responsibility for it, publicly.

You don’t speak for 63 million of any kind of voter.

 

The wall part is estimated to cost $25B. 64 million people voted for that.

Ask Jimmy Acosta how we’ll walls work. Ask the city of San Diego how well walls work. The objective is zero illegal border crossings. The actual will be determined by measurement. Problems will be addressed as they are identified. This is how a quality assurance program works and is exactly how the Israelis achieved zero crossings on there southern border.

Those items are the same items that Pelosi and Schumer’s experts want.

And of course the moronic notion that anyone who advocates the building of a wall is motivated by a “spectacular amount of hate”. That’s just to funny.

 

63 million have spoken. And Trump is honoring their wishes by placing the welfare of US citizens above the welfare of non citizens.

 

And you should explain why Boehner blocked instead of being so intellectually dishonest.

 

So, tell me exactly what benefit we're getting from spending $5B instead of $25B.

I want to know how many fewer people will enter America.

And, I want that to include the fact that those running the border CAN switch to other methods of entry.

That is, I want to know the specific plan AND what serious analysts say about how that will change the situation in America.

 

Two have spoken.

Dirty Donnie is a liar. He places his own welfare above all else and he doesn’t care about the 800,000 unpaid federal workers.

 

You partisan hacks are hilarious!!! You just blindly follow whatever you're told to. Sad.

 

He blocked the bill, because he knew it would pass.

America was in favor of the 2013 bill that was created in bipartisan committees in the House and Senate, was backed by Rubio and other Republicans who know about immigration, passed in the Senate where Republicans could easily have vetoed it (as the Senate was divided 55 to 45), ...

... and, contained $40B over 10 years for the southern border as well as money for attacking other methods used by undocumented aliens to enter America and stay.

 

We are getting 20% of the total wall built.

Of course those who will not be able to illegally cross the southern border may/can switch to other illegal methods to get into the US.

Serious analysts (border patrol agents and border patrol management) say that the wall is needed. And serious analysts indicate that both US citizen and non citizen lives in the US will be saved by building the wall. And serious analysts indicate that citizens of Central American lives will be saved by building the wall. Your analysts claim that lives will not be saved ?? Your analysts claim that Central American women are raped by disgusting coyotes transporting them to the border ??

You are perfectly capable of answering your own questions. The border security system will be designed to allow zero illegal border crossings just as any system is designed to accomplish any design goal. Flaws will be addressed by the process of Kaizen. This is exactly what was done in Israel.

 

Again with the intellectual dishonesty. Come'on man.

 

Hilarious. Come'on man - you can do better than that. Grow some originality.

 

Actually what happened was democrats demonstrated repeatedly (including with W) that they have no standards and would say anything to get their way.

Based on what I saw during the 2016 election coming from Republicans, Democrats would have to stoop pretty low to be even. I am a Democrat, and I don't want to be even. I want Republicans to keep focusing on finding fault and blaming everyone else for every conceivable ill. They can claim that makes them leaders.

 

Agreed.

 

I want to see the analysis of how that improves the situation for America.

Do NOT tell me that cuts out 20% of the number of crossings based on dollars spent. It does NOT work that way.

I don't want to hear that border control thinks "the" wall is needed. They aren't getting "the" wall. And, NO agency in our entire government thinks they are getting enough money. Those manning the Berlin Wall didn't think they were getting enough support.

While I appreciate your confidence in MY analysis, let me remind you that MY analysis is that we DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS concerning the fragment that Trump is shutting down our government and promoting numerous lies in order to obtain.


I do not believe that references to Israel's process of ethnic cleansing is a credit to you OR your argument in ANY way. Remember that they have NEVER stopped building more wall, placed in order to capture more territory so they can bulldoze more homes of those who live there.

 

What was coming from the R’s.

 

If you want to call me a liar, you need to at least have the balls to identify the lie.

 

That’s hilarious. Automation is eliminating low skilled jobs for US citizens and the Democrats act to bring more low skilled illegal aliens into the US who take US citizen jobs and consume welfare benefits set up again for US citizens.

Your comments on Israel are disgusting.

 

Thanks for making my point on intellectual dishonesty.

 

Why ? The truth may be boring but it has the advantage of being............true.

 

NO. That is just plain FALSE.

Under Obama, bipartisan committees in the House and Senate created a bill that would address the many ways undocumented aliens have entered the US and gotten jobs.

It had $40B for the southern border.

It had a revamp of our visa system, which is responsible for half those who enter LEGALLY and stay.

It had money to fix e-verify and require its use by US employers - killing the reason most are trying to come here, as demonstrated in 2008.

And, it had the backing of Rubio (who was a committee member) and other Republicans who understand immigration - resulting in it passing in the Senate, where the narrow margin would have allowed Republicans to easily sustain a veto.

DEMOCRATS voted for that bill. And, it would have become law had Boehner not blocked it from coming to a vote in the House.

DO NOT LIE about Dems not working to solve immigration problems. It is historic fact that ONLY Dems have promoted solutions to all the various components to even FURTHER reduce the number who are coming here and staying illegally.

 

No, he was impeached for asking other people to lie about his sexual harassment as the POTUS towards a young intern.

You can call it "consensual" all you want, the fact is, the POTUS shoving cigars up his intern is not "consensual", but the worst sort of sexual predation.

Yes, I know Democrats are the Puritans of government. Everyone knows that.

 

You're not going to reduce their income when the price is basically the same.

For the record, I don't particularly have a problem with pot.

That wasn't really one of the drugs I was talking about, or the reason I started talking about this in the first place.

My concern is drugs that are both highly addictive and deadly, like fentanyl and heroin.

 

That's absolutely true. Why do D's want to bring low skilled labor into the US when those jobs are being replaced by technology. This harms US workers by taking jobs and depressing wages.

Again the intellectual dishonesty regarding why Boehner blocked it. Come'on man.